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    Posted: March 20 2012 at 22:45
I post this after reading the grim wikipedia entry on trolling, which identifies it as a dangerous anti-social activity that borders on criminality, and is buttressed by quotes that the internet needs to be policed. Ouch

I would get stupid from it, or even "uninhibited," and vulgar, but it is not particularly damaging to me, and I think many people on sites like ESPN and news sites read the comments just for the ridiculous trolling, which is often entertaining. On a site like this it is more disruptive, but a kind of perversion?

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Minor or occasional issue. Luckily, I do not encounter trolling much; only when I watch certain PF videos on YouTube.
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Originally posted by Dayvenkirq Dayvenkirq wrote:

Minor or occasional issue. Luckily, I do not encounter trolling much; only when I watch certain PF videos on YouTube.


Youtube is indeed not a good place for human communication in general. There is such a diversity of people of all ages, they are not committed to making a legitimate comment on any one of those temporary pages, so you get fragments of fragments, usually trollish. I've noticed however that even serious websites like the world news section of reuters for example tends to have equal weight in troll posts as in genuine posts. So  I agree with wikipedia that it is a pervasive phenomenon.
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Originally posted by RoyFairbank RoyFairbank wrote:

Originally posted by Dayvenkirq Dayvenkirq wrote:

Minor or occasional issue. Luckily, I do not encounter trolling much; only when I watch certain PF videos on YouTube.


Youtube is indeed not a good place for human communication in general. There is such a diversity of people of all ages, they are not committed to making a legitimate comment on any one of those temporary pages, so you get fragments of fragments, usually trollish. I've noticed however that even serious websites like the world news section of reuters for example tends to have equal weight in troll posts as in genuine posts. So  I agree with wikipedia that it is a pervasive phenomenon.

World news section of Reuters has trolling posts? ... Oy.
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What's the big deal.

Yes, I am trying to recover from trolling addiction but really, it's a god damn joke and most trolling makes fun of itself. Like, painfully obvious and people just go along with it. If you don't get it or are too sensitive just go away! It just requires clicking an X in the corner!

Not to be confused with actual cyber bullying or stuff like that. That's not cool.
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I think trolling can be pretty funny if it's done well. It can be annoying but that's usually only if you take the bait and get sucked in. 
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I generally find it more annoying and dumb than funny. 
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i think the word has an old-norse relation, but it i haz nothing to do with Trolls but with the fishing techniqies used when you set out bait, for fish and come back laiter to pull in the fish = trolling 

Trolling is a method of fishing where one or more fishing lines, baited with lures or bait fish, are drawn through the water. This may be behind a moving boat, or by slowly winding the line in when fishing from a static position, or even sweeping the line from side-to-side, e.g. when fishing from a jetty. Trolling is used to catch pelagic fish such as salmon, mackerel and kingfish.

Trolling can be phonetically confused with trawling, a different method of fishing where a net (trawl) is drawn through the water instead of lines. Trolling is used both for recreational and commercial fishing whereas trawling is used mainly for commercial fishing.

A troll is a mythological creature, related to elves, dwarves, or monsters.

The verb troll originates from Old French troller, a hunting term. The noun troll comes from the Old Norse word for a mythological monster.[7]

In modern English usage, the verb troll is a fishing technique of slowly dragging a lure or baited hook from a moving boat.[8] The word evokes the trolls of Scandinavian folklore and children's tales, where they are often creatures bent on mischief and wickedness.
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I find a****les much more annoying. Trolls are usually easily ignorable.
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I've learned this: when reading something a news website... When watching a video online... When reading a webcomic... Never... Listen me well... NEVER ever read the comments!
It's not only that the trolls are annoying most of the time and that most of them seem to be real morons, it's also that reading their insane and inane rantings (ratings?) leave a taste of bile in the mouth.
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Points: 19626 		Direct Link To This Post Posted: March 21 2012 at 05:21
Originally posted by Blacksword Blacksword wrote:

Other.

I don't give a sh!t.
 
Other option:
 
  • I'm a troll, myself LOL
 
 
but in the poll, I chose vaguely funny, but ultimately, like Andy, I don't care much.
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Points: 23998 		Direct Link To This Post Posted: March 21 2012 at 05:34
Sometimes kind of funny, sometimes slightly irritant, always a minor issue.
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"Irritant" mostly, but then again, if I think it's funny or somehow subversive (e.g. knocking people out of their complacency and making them think about what they do for a change), then I don't really think of it as trolling anyway.  In general, the trolling I've seen is pretty asinine and just begging for attention, which is pretty pathetic to watch.
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Originally posted by RoyFairbank RoyFairbank wrote:

I post this after reading the grim wikipedia entry on trolling, which identifies it as a dangerous anti-social activity that borders on criminality, and is buttressed by quotes that the internet needs to be policed. Ouch

I would get stupid from it, or even "uninhibited," and vulgar, but it is not particularly damaging to me, and I think many people on sites like ESPN and news sites read the comments just for the ridiculous trolling, which is often entertaining. On a site like this it is more disruptive, but a kind of perversion?

What does the forum think?

You didn't provide a Wiki link so I went to look it up.  The one thing I didn't find was a definition applicable to the internet. LOL
Troll (research station), a Norwegian Antarctic research station on Queen Maud Land
Troll (album), a 2005 album by Norwegian folk metal band Lumsk
Troll (gay slang), a slang term for gay men who wander about looking for sexual partners
Troll (automobile), a Norwegian car manufacturer
Karl Troll (1865-1954), Austrian architect
etc.
Oh wait, here it is:
Troll (Internet), an internet term for a person who, through willful action, attempts to disrupt a community or garner attention and controversy through provocative messages.

Ignoring the person will generally derail them.

There is something about being able to be anonymous that does encourages people to behave that way.  I myself have annoyed a few people on this site, but I am not hiding behind a mask.
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Points: 11415 		Direct Link To This Post Posted: March 21 2012 at 06:28
There's a clear difference between
1 - deliberately thought provoking polemic
2 - trolling

One is designed to encourage people to question their own assumptions and the other is just social brinkmanship of the worst kindConfused
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Originally posted by Henry Plainview Henry Plainview wrote:

I generally find it more annoying and dumb than funny. 


I'm with Henry on this one - trolls are usually your common or garden keyboard heroes, frantically trying to attract attention, shouting 'look at me, look at me', whilst waving their arms to prevent drowning in a sea of their own inadequacy.

As a forum moderator, they can be a thorn in the side occasionally, but once identified, deleted with extreme prejudice.

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The problem is that trolling and internet bullying and intimidation have become to mean the same thing.
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