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    Posted: May 02 2012 at 13:16


EDIT: Don't forget to read Olav's (Windhawk) post - it's the last one on previous page.


Proto-Prog seems like the best shot, even I'm not sure how well it will go



Edited by Marty McFly - May 02 2012 at 13:17
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iTunes biography excerpt: 

One of the most well-known rock groups from Continental Europe, Denmark's Savage Rose recorded a wealth of intriguing and eclectic progressive rock in the late '60s and '70s. In their early work, one hears faint echoes of the Airplane, Doors, Pink Floyd, and other psychedelic heavyweights combined with classical jazz and Danish-Euro folk elements. Their arrangements rely heavily on an incandescent, watery organ that sounds like nothing so much as psychedelic aquarium music. The most striking aspect of the band's sound, however, was the vocals of lead singer Annisette. Her childish wispy and sensual phrasing can suddenly break into jarring, almost histrionic wailing, like a Janis Joplin with Yoko Ono-isms, and eerily foreshadows Kate Bush's style.

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Post Options Post Options   Quote earlyprog Quote  Post ReplyReply Direct Link To This Post Posted: May 02 2012 at 14:38
A rough sketch of the music of Savage Rose:
 
Despite excursions into Blues/Gospel (2 albums in mid-70's) and folk - at best prog folk - (2 albums in the early 80's) they have continuously had an underlying crossover prog approach starting with "Your Daily Gift" (1970) and reinvented on "Solen var også din" (1978) continuing until mid-90's (?).  Everything from '68 to '70 culminating with "Triumph of the Death" (composed 1970, released '72) is proto-prog, the latter perhaps even symphonic prog.
 
I will be more concise in a subsequent reply and in the meantime provide tube samples of their crossover prog.


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Post Options Post Options   Quote earlyprog Quote  Post ReplyReply Direct Link To This Post Posted: May 03 2012 at 08:57
An attempt at presenting some crossover prog by Savage Rose with the limitations of Youtube.
 
The albums best representing their crossover prog are the albums "Solen var også Din" (1978), "Gadens Dronning" (1985), "Your Daily Gift" (1970) and the most recent "Universal Daughter" (2007).
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
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Post Options Post Options   Quote Marty McFly Quote  Post ReplyReply Direct Link To This Post Posted: May 03 2012 at 17:07

One question - where do you see Prog in this Dod. concept album ? Can you please elaborate a bit ? Except its wordless story telling (in terms of moods + song names), it can be tricky.

Their other albums - Too many directions and genres, too little consistency. That shouldn't be a problem, that should only help in theory, but in the end, it's very difficult to categorize such bands into our ar-chi-ves. Too Prog indeed.



Edited by Marty McFly - May 03 2012 at 17:07
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Originally posted by Marty McFly

...Too many directions and genres, too little consistency. That shouldn't be a problem, that should only help in theory, but in the end, it's very difficult to categorize such bands into our ar-chi-ves.

 
Savage Rose are consistent in the sense that they always return to crossover prog, beginning in 1970 with "Your Daily Gift" followed by a departure into R&B/soul/gospel and then 5 year hiatus followed by the crossovered "Solen var også Din" in 1978. Subsequent albums were centered on (prog) folk before returning to crossover in the 80's. The 90's: rock, R&B and most recently (2007's "Universal Daughter") a return to crossover.
 
They have released two 'concept' albums. You refer to Triumph of the Death (Dod?). The other is "The Emperor's new Clothes" (circa 1985). Be aware that the former exists in a one-album version and a double album version. Which one do you refer to? (For clarity: In my opinion, it is contained in their proto-prog period.)
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Post Options Post Options   Quote earlyprog Quote  Post ReplyReply Direct Link To This Post Posted: May 04 2012 at 10:27
Any other thoughts on their crossover prog credibility?
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Post Options Post Options   Quote earlyprog Quote  Post ReplyReply Direct Link To This Post Posted: May 26 2012 at 06:23
Has the crossover genre team taken action on this? What's the status?
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Post Options Post Options   Quote yam yam Quote  Post ReplyReply Direct Link To This Post Posted: September 08 2012 at 14:43
Nothing on progfreak for them, so I'd hazard a guess that the answer to your first question is probably 'no'...and the second one 'don't know'.  Embarrassed
 
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Post Options Post Options   Quote yam yam Quote  Post ReplyReply Direct Link To This Post Posted: September 08 2012 at 15:19
Originally posted by earlyprog

 
 
 
 
I'm not sure if their entire discography can really be considered as prog, but I certainly detected a snatch or two in this particular video... ^  Shocked
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Being a long time fan of this band, I think it's safe to say that psychedelic is pushing things a bitLOL Their first album might be categorised as proto prog late psych rock, but the emphasis later on was always on the splicing of huge melodically pompous and the powerful vocals of Anisette. X-over seems to be the safest bet imo.
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Post Options Post Options   Quote earlyprog Quote  Post ReplyReply Direct Link To This Post Posted: September 15 2012 at 13:19
They are still going strong! Just released Love & Freedom three days ago.
 
Haven't heard it yet, only the bluesy title track. Crossover or Proto-Prog?
 
 
 
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Post Options Post Options   Quote earlyprog Quote  Post ReplyReply Direct Link To This Post Posted: November 28 2012 at 15:22
^Crossover according to ProgFreak.
 
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Post Options Post Options   Quote tamijo Quote  Post ReplyReply Direct Link To This Post Posted: November 28 2012 at 15:57
Didnt notice this tread.
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Tamijo, your introduction of Savage Rose for PA consideration before anyone else a couple of years ago is much appreciated.Approve
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