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Topic: How many politicians are not scum?
Posted: May 02 2012 at 21:54

^ May I ask who is the third lucky guy?

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Posted: May 02 2012 at 20:55

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Posted: May 02 2012 at 17:33

JJLehto wrote:

Like I said, beliefs really shouldn't have anything to do with the scum factor. Without saying it, you do realize you're admitting a scumbag is less scummy, if they closely agree with you?

Actually the scum factor has more to do with taking positions and passing or supporting legislation or advancing policies that are harmful that I happen to not agree with. Politicians can make things better for the many but far too many afflict the afflicted and comfort the comfortable, which I find morally unconscionable.

Released date are often when it it impacted you but recorded dates are when it really happened...

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Posted: May 02 2012 at 10:16

Like I said, beliefs really shouldn't have anything to do with the scum factor. Without saying it, you do realize you're admitting a scumbag is less scummy, if they closely agree with you?
It's really about waste of our money, "trueness" of belief, general corruption. Use of the office for personal matter.
I can hate your guys but if you don't do any of that well....you got me LOL

That's funny. Spitzer, Weiner and John Edwards were 3 guys I really liked myself.

Well, the Weiner thing doesn't really go to "scum" in my book...just dumb.
I'm forgiving of "personal" scandal as long as it doesn't involve the public...
Which obviously wasn't the case with Spitzer. Very sad. I was hoping he was gunna be a future star in the Democratic Party too.

Oh John Edwards...man talk about the definition of sh*tbag Angry

I forgot about Bernie Sanders, he is also not scum.
Ironically, the most progressive and the libertarian politicians seem to be the scum free ones.

Edited by JJLehto - May 02 2012 at 10:17

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Posted: May 02 2012 at 07:52

Bernie Sanders - not scum.

It kind of depends on how close they are supporting/agreeing with to my personal political beliefs. It really pisses me off when those I like politically turn out to be scum waffles personally - Elliott Spitzer, John Edwards, Anthony Weiner. Angry

Edited by Slartibartfast - May 02 2012 at 07:52

Released date are often when it it impacted you but recorded dates are when it really happened...

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Posted: May 02 2012 at 05:22

Smurph wrote:

Well, the reason I listed a number is because I asked you to name them for me with reasons why you think they are not scum.

I am turning into a misanthropist and my deep seeded hatred for everything that exists is growing daily. I am angry about everything. I wanted to see if you thought anyone helping run things in different countries didn't suck. I can't stand even the idea of how our world works and I wanted some HOPE.

If I did percentages, I wouldn't be able to get specific names.

Hmmm....well IMO

Dennis Kucinich, Russ Feingold (though both have gotten the boot Cry

) Ron Paul.
I guess also Rand Paul.
Gary Johnson

Uh..idk a few others I'm sure. Not many
It's tough, I can disagree with someone and still realize they are not scum...but you gotta distinguish the two.

edit: Jim McGreevy was great as mayor of my town. Cool guy, "normal" the typical politician who was just doing his job. Personable and knew my family well because we always called him during dinner to make the snow plows come to our street.

Then he became governor of NJ and went corrupt.
Apparently also gay LOL

(what he technically resigned for...convenient since those scandals were breaking)
Goes to show what the big time can potentially do the someone!

Edited by JJLehto - May 02 2012 at 05:27

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Posted: May 01 2012 at 20:47

^ wow *facepalm* stuart smalley?.. not scum *shakes head*, wow

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Posted: May 01 2012 at 18:40

Al Franken might be the only politician I know of that is not scum. There might be more though. Unfortunately, most of the politicians in power are scum.

Just give it all an hour by the concrete lake.

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Posted: May 01 2012 at 11:15

Smurph wrote:

I wanted to see if you thought anyone helping run things in different countries didn't suck. I can't stand even the idea of how our world works and I wanted some HOPE.

Oh, well, that's a different deal, dude. I don't know anyone trustworthy in Russia. I heard things are getting worse and worse there. For instance, it's hard to get a job. That's why an acquaintance of my mother's moved to Estonia to get a job! ... Pf ! ...

Edited by Dayvenkirq - May 01 2012 at 11:15

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Posted: May 01 2012 at 07:43

Well, the reason I listed a number is because I asked you to name them for me with reasons why you think they are not scum.

If I did percentages, I wouldn't be able to get specific names.

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Posted: May 01 2012 at 06:27

also as humans...we have different definitions of scum!

For me, hmm...well taxpayer money has always been the biggest issue, I believe in tax but therefore it should be efficient. Not to long ago I used to be naive about the overall picture and advocate higher taxes, now I see it's better to cut the mess, cut spending and lower taxes.

So politicians who waste taxpayer money 1: in spending 2: personally qualify as scum to me. AKA many
Looking out for interests over the people is another point high on my scum list. Again most of em
I really don't care about "personal" scandals because I just don't. Some have had particularly bad ones and that results in some scum.

So yeah, most of em LOL

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Posted: May 01 2012 at 03:44

A few may seem to not be, but they are not in total power atm.

Edited by tamijo - May 01 2012 at 03:45

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Posted: May 01 2012 at 03:42

The American politicians of now? None that I know of.

Textbook wrote:

OP: As stated above, this was a silly way to do the poll.

I think it's alright. It's hard to come up with, say, 10 non-scummy politicians. Well, it don't matter anyway.

Textbook wrote:

You should have given approximate percentages such as 0, <10, 25, 50, 75, 90+, all.

100% of American politicians is too many to know. That's where percentage fails against discrete math.

Edited by Dayvenkirq - May 01 2012 at 03:45

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Posted: May 01 2012 at 01:23

OP: As stated above, this was a silly way to do the poll. You should have given approximate percentages such as 0, <10, 25, 50, 75, 90+, all.

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Posted: April 30 2012 at 22:38

LOL I was expecting some percentage but you just went with numbers LOL

Well in all reality more than 5...but the number is not great.
That's for the US...in the world there may collectively be a decent number.

All my time here on an international forum though seems to show most people everywhere hate them

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Posted: April 30 2012 at 22:33

Napalm Death's Scum is better than most politicians.

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Posted: April 30 2012 at 21:53

I don't think Dubya was scum. I do think he had the worst judgment of any president in my lifetime including Richard Nixon and drank at the most inopportune times, but he wasn't scum.

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Posted: April 30 2012 at 20:56

Politicians include everyone from the POTUS to the guy who runs the water sanitation district in a small town. Some of those little guys are massively corrupt, but alot of them are just trying to keep their neighborhood going.

Major politicians all have to make compromises and concessions that taint them in order to maintain their positions. But some still are trying to do their best.

For instance, I think Jesse Ventura was genuinely trying to do good for the state of Minnesota as governor. He was just completely incompetent to do the job.

I actually also think George W. Bush was trying to do what he thought was right. I cannot say the same for some of his top advisors. I also happen to disagree with many of W's opinions on what was good for the country.

I also think Bill Clinton was a corrupt pile of feces, corroborated by some now middle aged women, acquantances, who lived in Arkansas when he was governor. But he was very very smart and most of his causes are more in line with mine than those other two guys.

You are quite a fine person, and I am very fond of you. But you are only quite a little fellow, in a wide world, after all.

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Posted: April 30 2012 at 14:36

Probably hundreds of them.

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Posted: April 30 2012 at 14:04

All politicians are saints. Just kidding Big smile

I voted

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Poll Question: How many American politicans can you think of that are NOT vile scum?
Poll Choice	Votes	Poll Statistics
NONE	14	[58.33%]
1	3	[12.50%]
2	1	[4.17%]
3	0	[0.00%]
4	0	[0.00%]
5 or more	6	[25.00%]
This topic is closed, no new votes accepted