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    Posted: May 07 2012 at 01:29
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Direct Link To This Post Posted: May 07 2012 at 01:21
Thinking of Oldfield and newage Song Of Distant Earth is what has come immediately to my mind. The novel on which the concept is based is quite newage, too.
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Direct Link To This Post Posted: May 07 2012 at 01:12
Originally posted by Snow Dog Snow Dog wrote:

Originally posted by richardh richardh wrote:

 
 
the above link refers to Ommadawn as being a pre-cursor to the New Age musical movement. I guess Oldfield doesn't take much notice of his official press releases then?

A Precursor doesn't make it part of it. 
I think it does if only a small part
However labels as we all know are meaningless. Oldifeld is into some new agey things very clearly. How many near breakdowns has he had? I guess he needs some calmess. The Songs Of Distant Earth and Tres Lunas offer that in spades. Would he go 'apesh*t' being called 'New Age' . No he wouldn't but I expect he would point out the wide ranging body of work he has every reason to be proud of and that his music goes further than just the narrow confines of one genre.
 
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Direct Link To This Post Posted: May 06 2012 at 18:55

^ ah, Enya's big sister. Clannad and the Clannad clan (love them or loath them) have created some really nice music...

 
...and I think that is part of the problem with New Age for some people - it's too nice, even when it's complex and highly structured,or just well written and performed it comes over as "nice"... and once you hit that epithet you're kind of stuck in a limbo with nowhere to go and "nice" can never be "great". Shame because some great music has been produced under the banner of New Age.


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Direct Link To This Post Posted: May 06 2012 at 18:33

Moya Brennan  – Two Horizons

 
Nice album, I like this song
 
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Direct Link To This Post Posted: May 06 2012 at 18:21
Originally posted by Dayvenkirq Dayvenkirq wrote:


If you do call Vangelis a New Age composer, then it goes without saying that his Blade Runner work is an excellent soundtrack album. ***** / *****
 
1492 is great too!


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Direct Link To This Post Posted: May 06 2012 at 18:19
I only use the term New Age loosely....
 
I admire a little known artist called Jean Pierre Limborg who has done music , kind of like spiritual ambient electronic with world/ethnic ingredients and stuff. His first album is one of my favourite albums. Some of his later also has a bit of chill-out ingredients, just soft relaxing grooves, but very well produced. Many of those later albums are made for different series that the record label has issued, for example a "Feng Shui" series, were one of those albums are by Limborg, others are by other artists . I really like a lot of the stuff he's made, the sounds and production and atmosphere is very appealing.
 
It's interesting to look at his influences listed at myspace:
 
"brian eno, peter gabriel, magma, dead can dance, bartok, mahler, the who, hadouk trio, trilok gurtu, robert wyatt, soft machine, hildegard von bingen, king crimson, daniel lanois, sigur ros, les voix bulgares, jan garbarek, björk, van der graaf generator, richard strauss, morton feldman, webern, von magnet, josef zawinul, los neutrinos, steve reich, sufjan stevens, yvinek, goldfrapp, beck, bhimsen joshi, philip glass, kishori amonkar...and so many wonders in this world, worth to fight for..."
 
"Somewhere between Dead Can Dance and Eno, trip-hop and world, ambient and emotronic, Limborg is following his own path of audacious and generous musician. "
 
I only found one track on youtube but there's more on his myspace  http://www.myspace.com/limborg
 
 
 
 
 
 


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Direct Link To This Post Posted: May 06 2012 at 18:02
Originally posted by richardh richardh wrote:

 
 
the above link refers to Ommadawn as being a pre-cursor to the New Age musical movement. I guess Oldfield doesn't take much notice of his official press releases then?

A Precursor doesn't make it part of it. 
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Direct Link To This Post Posted: May 06 2012 at 17:13
Originally posted by ExittheLemming ExittheLemming wrote:

I'm a big admirer of the OP's reviews but I'm sure that a well balanced, fair minded and equitable soul as Gerinski would agree that 75% of the problem debating the merits of otherwise of this type of music is the frankly repellant nomenclature and fan demographic used: I mean there are cave dwelling hermits who would turn their noses up at the prospect of 'New Age' innit?
 
 
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Direct Link To This Post Posted: May 06 2012 at 16:54
I also suspect Mr Oldfield knew exactly what he was doing when he recorded The Songs From Distant Earth. Wink
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Direct Link To This Post Posted: May 06 2012 at 16:50
 
 
the above link refers to Ommadawn as being a pre-cursor to the New Age musical movement. I guess Oldfield doesn't take much notice of his official press releases then?
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Direct Link To This Post Posted: May 06 2012 at 12:48
Well I agree with Mike. I'd not describe him as New Age. But that's not the point. The point was he'd be annoyed having his music described as New Age. Which he would be.

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Direct Link To This Post Posted: May 06 2012 at 12:32
Musicians say a lot of things. For a time in the 80s it was fashionable to be "New Age" - you could guarantee some form of success by being New Age when being Prog was viewed as commercial suicide, just as Mike Oldfield and (gasp) The Enid forayed into "dance music" in the 90s. Now it is not fashionable to be "New Age" to the extent it is seen as a derogatory term, even within the classical guitar driven Jazz side of New Age.

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Direct Link To This Post Posted: May 06 2012 at 12:20
^ I do know. He has said as much.Wink
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Direct Link To This Post Posted: May 06 2012 at 10:10
Originally posted by Snow Dog Snow Dog wrote:

I know that if Mike Oldfield heard is music described as "New Age" he would go apesh*t.
 
I don't know . There were a few artists who jumped on the New Age bandwagon in the eighties . Tangerine Dream - Underwater Sunlight and Vangelis - Soil Festivities (but don't tell Moshkito he might come after me with a big knife) even Rick Wakeman with his 'Airs Trilogy'. Oldfield more or less invented it with Hergest Ridge so I think he will have a wry smile. The producer of Tubular Bells , Tom Newman also got involved before Oldfield re-employed him for TB2 in the early nineties. It was a very interesting little genre that developed well beyond just whale sounds and the sound of a stream. Many creative people got involved so I doubt that Oldfield would throw a fit somehow.
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Direct Link To This Post Posted: May 06 2012 at 08:12
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yes, on 'voices'. This album is a true beauty.
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Direct Link To This Post Posted: May 06 2012 at 07:37
Lucas mentioned Claire Hamill as blending Ambient  with pop, and as far as I know she has only done that on one album - an a capella album that uses mutlitracked voices to create ambient soundscapes - I've seen her reproduce this live with two backing singers and it is breathtaking.
 
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Direct Link To This Post Posted: May 06 2012 at 06:02
Originally posted by octopus-4 octopus-4 wrote:

Mark Isham's "Tibet" and "Castalia" are both great albums. 

Also Vapor Drawings.  I found him through doing the soundtrack to Never Cry Wolf.  He also does jazz rock/fusion albums.
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Direct Link To This Post Posted: May 06 2012 at 06:02
I know that if Mike Oldfield heard is music described as "New Age" he would go apesh*t.
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Direct Link To This Post Posted: May 06 2012 at 05:57
I'm a big admirer of the OP's reviews but I'm sure that a well balanced, fair minded and equitable soul as Gerinski would agree that 75% of the problem debating the merits of otherwise of this type of music is the frankly repellant nomenclature and fan demographic used: I mean there are cave dwelling hermits who would turn their noses up at the prospect of 'New Age' innit?
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