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    Posted: February 14 2013 at 02:32
Originally posted by chopper

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Originally posted by Horizons

Originally posted by dr prog

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Originally posted by dr prog




Originally posted by Horizons

He moved to a better band, for him and in general. I think that's pretty smart. 

 
From a band who could compose to a band who couldn't really compose. Not better for me Smile


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I played larks album recently and just didn't enjoy it much. The album has major holes I reckon. There's no kick ass compositions such as gentle giants playing the game or the runaway. Brilliant tracks. I only like wettons voice in the slow tracks. His voice sucks in easy money a bit

That's like my favorite KC song. 
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Sorry but Easy Money is a weak track to consider as your fave from the band how about Exiles or Starless?
That's just your opinion. If it's his favourite track then it's not weak for him. For what it's worth I also think Easy Money is great.

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Not sure why we are celebrating this as an anniversary lol. Crimson we're at their best in 1970 and 71 and Yes we're at their best from 1969-1972. Crimson changed their lineup every year. Would have been hard to really be a fan of a band who replaces 80% of their members 3 times in 3 years. Different bands different music. Not always good. I would have loved to hear lake on lizard. Happy family and indoor games would have sounded a lot better. The music may have even better with Giles and McDonald on board but McCullough and Collins are great too

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Originally posted by ProgMetaller2112

Originally posted by Horizons

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Originally posted by Horizons

He moved to a better band, for him and in general. I think that's pretty smart. 

 
From a band who could compose to a band who couldn't really compose. Not better for me Smile


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I played larks album recently and just didn't enjoy it much. The album has major holes I reckon. There's no kick ass compositions such as gentle giants playing the game or the runaway. Brilliant tracks. I only like wettons voice in the slow tracks. His voice sucks in easy money a bit

That's like my favorite KC song. 
Ouch


Sorry but Easy Money is a weak track to consider as your fave from the band how about Exiles or Starless?
That's just your opinion. If it's his favourite track then it's not weak for him. For what it's worth I also think Easy Money is great.
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Originally posted by dr prog

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Originally posted by dr prog

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Originally posted by dr prog




Originally posted by Horizons

He moved to a better band, for him and in general. I think that's pretty smart. 

 
From a band who could compose to a band who couldn't really compose. Not better for me Smile


Clap Approve here is someone who gets it dr prog you are CoolClap


I played larks album recently and just didn't enjoy it much. The album has major holes I reckon. There's no kick ass compositions such as gentle giants playing the game or the runaway. Brilliant tracks. I only like wettons voice in the slow tracks. His voice sucks in easy money a bit
I have always been a bit mystified by the love Larks' Tongues gets around here. Don't get me wrong, it has it's moments and I am a big KC fan in general, but compared to their other works it has always struck me as a bit lackluster. The only track on it I really love is The Talking Drum.


I like starless album less than larks. Red is a more consistent album than larks and starless but even that isn't great to me. Poseidon is my style. Melodic with more keys and swing. Lake, sinfeild, McDonald and Giles brought a lot more composition to the band. It's a pity those guys didn't hang around for another few years to at least 1973. Or even through most of the 70s


Here is one man who gets it ApproveSmileCool   except I think that Larks Tongues is their best album


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Originally posted by thellama73

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Originally posted by Horizons

He moved to a better band, for him and in general. I think that's pretty smart. 

 
From a band who could compose to a band who couldn't really compose. Not better for me Smile


Clap Approve here is someone who gets it dr prog you are CoolClap


I played larks album recently and just didn't enjoy it much. The album has major holes I reckon. There's no kick ass compositions such as gentle giants playing the game or the runaway. Brilliant tracks. I only like wettons voice in the slow tracks. His voice sucks in easy money a bit


I have always been a bit mystified by the love Larks' Tongues gets around here. Don't get me wrong, it has it's moments and I am a big KC fan in general, but compared to their other works it has always struck me as a bit lackluster. The only track on it I really love is The Talking Drum.


Shocked  It's their best album, period!!! and the Talking Drum is f***** weak compared to just about everything else on that album



Edited by ProgMetaller2112 - February 12 2013 at 18:18
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Originally posted by Horizons

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Originally posted by dr prog




Originally posted by Horizons

He moved to a better band, for him and in general. I think that's pretty smart. 

 
From a band who could compose to a band who couldn't really compose. Not better for me Smile


Clap Approve here is someone who gets it dr prog you are CoolClap


I played larks album recently and just didn't enjoy it much. The album has major holes I reckon. There's no kick ass compositions such as gentle giants playing the game or the runaway. Brilliant tracks. I only like wettons voice in the slow tracks. His voice sucks in easy money a bit

That's like my favorite KC song. 
Ouch


Sorry but Easy Money is a weak track to consider as your fave from the band how about Exiles or Starless?
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Originally posted by Slartibartfast

For me both bands benefited.
I'm inclined to say King Crimson benefited more than Yes, but it didn't really hurt Yes any. Bruford's work in Yes was great but the way I see it they had three solid, classic albums before Bill left (The Yes Album, Fragile and CTTE) and three equally good ones after (TfTO, Relayer and GFTO), so they were able to keep up their momentum just fine, whilst King Crimson had released one classic album (the debut) and a set of followups which had never quite manage to hit the high standards previously set.

There's good tracks on all the KC albums from In the Wake of Poseidon to Islands but all three of those albums have consistency issues, partly because of their nightmarish lineup problems the band had - until Wetton and Bruford came on board Fripp basically never knew who he'd be recording the next KC album with! Then along comes Bruford and you have their classic mid-1970s era and their brilliant re-emergence in the 1980s. Fripp's a great guitarist and has a really sharp understanding of music as a whole, but in a band context (as opposed to solo multi-instrumentalist stuff and the like) you can't pull out your best work unless you have solid collaborators pulling their weight alongside you, so Bruford joining KC was an absolute godsend.


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Originally posted by thellama73


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Originally posted by Horizons

He moved to a better band, for him and in general. I think that's pretty smart. 

 
From a band who could compose to a band who couldn't really compose. Not better for me Smile


Clap Approve here is someone who gets it dr prog you are CoolClap


I played larks album recently and just didn't enjoy it much. The album has major holes I reckon. There's no kick ass compositions such as gentle giants playing the game or the runaway. Brilliant tracks. I only like wettons voice in the slow tracks. His voice sucks in easy money a bit
I have always been a bit mystified by the love Larks' Tongues gets around here. Don't get me wrong, it has it's moments and I am a big KC fan in general, but compared to their other works it has always struck me as a bit lackluster. The only track on it I really love is The Talking Drum.


I like starless album less than larks. Red is a more consistent album than larks and starless but even that isn't great to me. Poseidon is my style. Melodic with more keys and swing. Lake, sinfeild, McDonald and Giles brought a lot more composition to the band. It's a pity those guys didn't hang around for another few years to at least 1973. Or even through most of the 70s

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^ I always thought of four out of six tracks on the album as brothers, all heavy. The grooves, the sound of the guitar and the bass, masterful improvs and compositions. Bruford was definitely integral to that sound. A (mostly) dirty record, and that's why I like it.

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Looks delicious to me.
Where is it from, some Western-European cuisine?
Please tell me these are NOT lark's tongues????
I was thinking the same thing. Aren't they too large to be larks' tongues? BTW, I took the picture from a blog and took its author's word for it.

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Originally posted by dr prog

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Originally posted by Horizons

He moved to a better band, for him and in general. I think that's pretty smart. 

 
From a band who could compose to a band who couldn't really compose. Not better for me Smile


Clap Approve here is someone who gets it dr prog you are CoolClap


I played larks album recently and just didn't enjoy it much. The album has major holes I reckon. There's no kick ass compositions such as gentle giants playing the game or the runaway. Brilliant tracks. I only like wettons voice in the slow tracks. His voice sucks in easy money a bit


I have always been a bit mystified by the love Larks' Tongues gets around here. Don't get me wrong, it has it's moments and I am a big KC fan in general, but compared to their other works it has always struck me as a bit lackluster. The only track on it I really love is The Talking Drum.
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I think in KC there was more breathing space for Bruford than it had ever been, or could have been in Yes. For one thing, Bruford gravitated towards jazz ... KC was a lot more jazzy than Yes. For another, in Yes the drummer somehow never was a primary player (I am glad the bassist was, though).  
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Looks delicious to me.

Where is it from, some Western-European cuisine?

Please tell me these are NOT lark's tongues????
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Originally posted by dr prog

Originally posted by ProgMetaller2112


Originally posted by dr prog




Originally posted by Horizons

He moved to a better band, for him and in general. I think that's pretty smart. 

 
From a band who could compose to a band who couldn't really compose. Not better for me Smile


Clap Approve here is someone who gets it dr prog you are CoolClap


I played larks album recently and just didn't enjoy it much. The album has major holes I reckon. There's no kick ass compositions such as gentle giants playing the game or the runaway. Brilliant tracks. I only like wettons voice in the slow tracks. His voice sucks in easy money a bit

That's like my favorite KC song. 
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i am just starting to read a french translation of his autobiography call "Bill Bruford, l'Autobiographie, Yes, King Crimson, Earthworks et le reste". by Aymeric Leroy. Plenty of fun read for a month at least....




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Originally posted by Horizons

He moved to a better band, for him and in general. I think that's pretty smart. 

 
From a band who could compose to a band who couldn't really compose. Not better for me Smile


Clap Approve here is someone who gets it dr prog you are CoolClap


I played larks album recently and just didn't enjoy it much. The album has major holes I reckon. There's no kick ass compositions such as gentle giants playing the game or the runaway. Brilliant tracks. I only like wettons voice in the slow tracks. His voice sucks in easy money a bit
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It's still tragic to me, because even though Crimson gained a phenomenal drummer, they always lacked in the vocal department without Lake. ELP has never been worth the power in vocals Lake brought to KC on their first two albums, and could've brought to the proceeding albums.
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Originally posted by Horizons

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Originally posted by Dayvenkirq

Originally posted by dr prog

Originally posted by Horizons

He moved to a better band, for him and in general. I think that's pretty smart. 
From a band who could compose to a band who couldn't really compose. Not better for me Smile
He wasn't talking about what was better for you. He was talking about what was better for Bill. Both bands could compose, but KC decided to do more than that - improvise, and that was right up Bill's alley.


Tongue yeah yeah so can Yes, Sound Chaser and The Ancient obliterate any of KC's  work Cool


Just kidding they don't.
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Thumbs Up  Tongue


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Originally posted by ProgMetaller2112

Originally posted by Dayvenkirq

Originally posted by dr prog

Originally posted by Horizons

He moved to a better band, for him and in general. I think that's pretty smart. 
From a band who could compose to a band who couldn't really compose. Not better for me Smile
He wasn't talking about what was better for you. He was talking about what was better for Bill. Both bands could compose, but KC decided to do more than that - improvise, and that was right up Bill's alley.


Tongue yeah yeah so can Yes, Sound Chaser and The Ancient obliterate any of KC's  work Cool


Just kidding they don't.
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Originally posted by thellama73

I love you guys. HeartP.S. For the record, KC is better than Yes.

Thumbs Down I disagree


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I love you guys. HeartP.S. For the record, KC is better than Yes.

Thumbs Down I disagree


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