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Direct Link To This Post Posted: July 22 2012 at 13:17
Probably the one guitarist I know, that executes technical virtuosity, while still retaining a unique, tasteful style is Tosin Abasi of Animals As Leaders. The guy is very diverse and dynamic; playing extremely rapid passages, and the same time playing very unconventional chord progressions. And like I said, he's still very musical, often complimenting the musicians he's working with. Another guitarist that comes off the top of my head is Allan Holdsworth, but he needs no introduction - a legend. 
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Direct Link To This Post Posted: July 22 2012 at 09:50
Originally posted by Gerinski Gerinski wrote:

I agree that technique is far from being the most important.
But there are also guitarists who are technical yet at the same time soulful
 
 


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Direct Link To This Post Posted: July 22 2012 at 09:43
 
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You mean Veil Of Gossamer, or does he have a new one out?  It's been a while since I've listened to his solo album but I remember enjoying it a lot; "The Everlasting Hills Part 1" particularly stood out to me (a 5 minute long song made up of one Dave Bainbridge solo?  Bring it on. Thumbs Up).


Yes, I meant Veil of Gossamer. Thanks for the correction. I guess I was thinking about a work by John Tavener. Cool Anyway, unfortunately Bainbridge doesn't have a new solo album out. A shame really. All of the musicians that played with Bainbridge on his solo album were excellent. I especially liked the guest appearance of bandmates Joanne Hogg, Troy Donockley (although he doesn't play with them anymore), and Frank Van Essen.


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Direct Link To This Post Posted: July 22 2012 at 04:42
Fripp, McLaughlin, Howe, Hackett, Zappa ... so far. This list will probably change if some day I will be willing to dig more into some of the stuff from Omar Rodriguez-Lopez and John Petrucci.
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Direct Link To This Post Posted: July 22 2012 at 03:25
I agree that technique is far from being the most important.
But there are also guitarists who are technical yet at the same time soulful and far from being the typical metal shredder, Shawn Lane, Greg Howe, Ritchie Kotzen or Frank Gambale come to mind.
 
 
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Direct Link To This Post Posted: July 22 2012 at 03:07
Itd be a bit of a chore to pick the 5 top technical players, But  here  http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=lQZY87PDsnQ . Any Mofo that needs more than one guitar is automaticaly in the top 5 I think.

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Direct Link To This Post Posted: July 22 2012 at 01:36
Originally posted by Atavachron Atavachron wrote:

Originally posted by Ambient Hurricanes Ambient Hurricanes wrote:

Originally posted by Mirror Image Mirror Image wrote:

Originally posted by Atavachron Atavachron wrote:

Pssh, who cares--  this thread is specifically about the top tech players, and no one said feeling and self-expression is unimportant.  Frankly the best players exhibit both; Jeff Beck, McLaughlin, Santana, John Abercrombie.

And I do love me some Tech.  For me, no one is more impressive right now than Ron Jarzombek.  And there's Holdsworth of course.
Who said that I said that feeling and self-expression was unimportant? Where did you get that from? All I gave was my opinion, which is what you and everyone else on this forum do on daily basis. Get over yourself.
I think you're misunderstanding him.  He didn't insinuate that you thought feeling was unimportant, he just made the point that, since we're in a thread about technical players, we might as well appreciate their ability, since this is a venue made specifically for that purpose.
Thanks--  and I'll get over myself if we can talk about tech guitarists in a tech guitarist thread.  But I guess tonight this is the wrong crowd for that, everyone wants to talk about how sensitive and wonderful Dave Gilmour is.  Suck my dick, and start a "Guitarists with Feeling" thread y' bunch of panzies.


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Direct Link To This Post Posted: July 22 2012 at 01:28
Originally posted by Ambient Hurricanes Ambient Hurricanes wrote:

Originally posted by Mirror Image Mirror Image wrote:

Originally posted by Atavachron Atavachron wrote:

Pssh, who cares--  this thread is specifically about the top tech players, and no one said feeling and self-expression is unimportant.  Frankly the best players exhibit both; Jeff Beck, McLaughlin, Santana, John Abercrombie.

And I do love me some Tech.  For me, no one is more impressive right now than Ron Jarzombek.  And there's Holdsworth of course.
Who said that I said that feeling and self-expression was unimportant? Where did you get that from? All I gave was my opinion, which is what you and everyone else on this forum do on daily basis. Get over yourself.
I think you're misunderstanding him.  He didn't insinuate that you thought feeling was unimportant, he just made the point that, since we're in a thread about technical players, we might as well appreciate their ability, since this is a venue made specifically for that purpose.
Thanks--  and I'll get over myself if we can talk about tech guitarists in a tech guitarist thread.  But I guess tonight this is the wrong crowd for that, everyone wants to talk about how sensitive and wonderful Dave Gilmour is.  Suck my dick, and start a "Guitarists with Feeling" thread y' bunch of panzies.

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Direct Link To This Post Posted: July 22 2012 at 00:32
Why is the technical guitarist standing out in the yard?

He can't find the key and he doesn't know when to come in.
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Direct Link To This Post Posted: July 22 2012 at 00:30
Originally posted by Mirror Image Mirror Image wrote:

Originally posted by Atavachron Atavachron wrote:

Pssh, who cares--  this thread is specifically about the top tech players, and no one said feeling and self-expression is unimportant.  Frankly the best players exhibit both; Jeff Beck, McLaughlin, Santana, John Abercrombie.

And I do love me some Tech.  For me, no one is more impressive right now than Ron Jarzombek.  And there's Holdsworth of course.


Who said that I said that feeling and self-expression was unimportant? Where did you get that from? All I gave was my opinion, which is what you and everyone else on this forum do on daily basis. Get over yourself.


I think you're misunderstanding him.  He didn't insinuate that you thought feeling was unimportant, he just made the point that, since we're in a thread about technical players, we might as well appreciate their ability, since this is a venue made specifically for that purpose.

Originally posted by Mirror Image Mirror Image wrote:

Originally posted by Ambient Hurricanes Ambient Hurricanes wrote:

I love the melodic element of his playing; no matter how fast he's going, he always has a clear melody, and it's emotional impact is only increased by his speed and embellishment.  I also don't think he uses very many "shred" techniques (at least I haven't heard it), which makes the things he can play seem all the more impressive.  His acoustic work is great, too.


Absolutely agreed. What did you think about his solo album The Protecting Veil? I thought it was fantastic.


You mean Veil Of Gossamer, or does he have a new one out?  It's been a while since I've listened to his solo album but I remember enjoying it a lot; "The Everlasting Hills Part 1" particularly stood out to me (a 5 minute long song made up of one Dave Bainbridge solo?  Bring it on. Thumbs Up).

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Direct Link To This Post Posted: July 22 2012 at 00:19
Originally posted by Ambient Hurricanes Ambient Hurricanes wrote:



I love the melodic element of his playing; no matter how fast he's going, he always has a clear melody, and it's emotional impact is only increased by his speed and embellishment.  I also don't think he uses very many "shred" techniques (at least I haven't heard it), which makes the things he can play seem all the more impressive.  His acoustic work is great, too.

Absolutely agreed. What did you think about his solo album The Protecting Veil? I thought it was fantastic.


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Originally posted by Atavachron Atavachron wrote:

Pssh, who cares--  this thread is specifically about the top tech players, and no one said feeling and self-expression is unimportant.  Frankly the best players exhibit both; Jeff Beck, McLaughlin, Santana, John Abercrombie.

And I do love me some Tech.  For me, no one is more impressive right now than Ron Jarzombek.  And there's Holdsworth of course.


Who said that I said that feeling and self-expression was unimportant? Where did you get that from? All I gave was my opinion, which is what you and everyone else on this forum do on daily basis. Get over yourself.
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Direct Link To This Post Posted: July 21 2012 at 23:58
Originally posted by Mirror Image Mirror Image wrote:

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I'm impressed with technicality insofar as it serves to enhance and contribute to the music instead of being merely superfluous.  Most of my favorite players lie somewhere in between the "technical" and "non-technical" players; guys like Alex Lifeson, Dave Bainbridge, Greg Massi, Omar Rodriguez-Lopez, and Steve Howe are undoubtedly masters of their instruments and definitely get some quality show-off time but aren't given to the super-technical displays and exotic shred techniques of the guitarists commonly regarded as technical players.

Kudos for mentioning Dave Bainbridge. What a great player! His work with Iona is quite special. Is he even capable of playing a bad note? Everything with Bainbridge is well-judged and he's not consumed with empty guitar pyrotechnics, although, like Hackett, he's got chops for days.


I love the melodic element of his playing; no matter how fast he's going, he always has a clear melody, and it's emotional impact is only increased by his speed and embellishment.  I also don't think he uses very many "shred" techniques (at least I haven't heard it), which makes the things he can play seem all the more impressive.  His acoustic work is great, too.
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Direct Link To This Post Posted: July 21 2012 at 23:57
Originally posted by Mirror Image Mirror Image wrote:

Originally posted by thellama73 thellama73 wrote:

Originally posted by Mirror Image Mirror Image wrote:

As a guitarist for 21 years, I have to say that technique really isn't that important and should never be your primary focus IMHO.

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My feelings exactly. I admire players like Mark Knopfler and Keith Richards for there creativity and expression, and have never been terrible impressed with "technical" players like John McLaughlin or Yngwie Malmsteen.
Exactly. My heroes Bill Frisell, Steve Hackett, Alex Lifeson, and Eric Johnson are all outstanding players, but it's their expression on their instrument and the way they project their emotions that makes them "speak" to me.
Pssh, who cares--  this thread is specifically about the top tech players, and no one said feeling and self-expression is unimportant.  Frankly the best players exhibit both; Jeff Beck, McLaughlin, Santana, John Abercrombie.

And I do love me some Tech.  For me, no one is more impressive right now than Ron Jarzombek.  And there's Holdsworth of course.

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Direct Link To This Post Posted: July 21 2012 at 23:53
Originally posted by Ambient Hurricanes Ambient Hurricanes wrote:



I'm impressed with technicality insofar as it serves to enhance and contribute to the music instead of being merely superfluous.  Most of my favorite players lie somewhere in between the "technical" and "non-technical" players; guys like Alex Lifeson, Dave Bainbridge, Greg Massi, Omar Rodriguez-Lopez, and Steve Howe are undoubtedly masters of their instruments and definitely get some quality show-off time but aren't given to the super-technical displays and exotic shred techniques of the guitarists commonly regarded as technical players.

Kudos for mentioning Dave Bainbridge. What a great player! His work with Iona is quite special. Is he even capable of playing a bad note? Everything with Bainbridge is well-judged and he's not consumed with empty guitar pyrotechnics, although, like Hackett, he's got chops for days.


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Direct Link To This Post Posted: July 21 2012 at 23:50
In no particular order:
 
Robert Fripp
Arto Lindsay
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Steve Hackett
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Direct Link To This Post Posted: July 21 2012 at 23:47
Originally posted by thellama73 thellama73 wrote:

Originally posted by Mirror Image Mirror Image wrote:

As a guitarist for 21 years, I have to say that technique really isn't that important and should never be your primary focus IMHO.


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My feelings exactly. I admire players like Mark Knopfler and Keith Richards for there creativity and expression, and have never been terrible impressed with "technical" players like John McLaughlin or Yngwie Malmsteen.


I'm impressed with technicality insofar as it serves to enhance and contribute to the music instead of being merely superfluous.  Most of my favorite players lie somewhere in between the "technical" and "non-technical" players; guys like Alex Lifeson, Dave Bainbridge, Greg Massi, Omar Rodriguez-Lopez, and Steve Howe are undoubtedly masters of their instruments and definitely get some quality show-off time but aren't given to the super-technical displays and exotic shred techniques of the guitarists commonly regarded as technical players.
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Direct Link To This Post Posted: July 21 2012 at 23:44
Originally posted by thellama73 thellama73 wrote:

Originally posted by Mirror Image Mirror Image wrote:

As a guitarist for 21 years, I have to say that technique really isn't that important and should never be your primary focus IMHO.


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My feelings exactly. I admire players like Mark Knopfler and Keith Richards for there creativity and expression, and have never been terrible impressed with "technical" players like John McLaughlin or Yngwie Malmsteen.

Exactly. My heroes Bill Frisell, Steve Hackett, Alex Lifeson, and Eric Johnson are all outstanding players, but it's their expression on their instrument and the way they project their emotions that makes them "speak" to me.
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Direct Link To This Post Posted: July 21 2012 at 23:40
Originally posted by Mirror Image Mirror Image wrote:

As a guitarist for 21 years, I have to say that technique really isn't that important and should never be your primary focus IMHO.


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My feelings exactly. I admire players like Mark Knopfler and Keith Richards for their creativity and expression, and have never been terrible impressed with "technical" players like John McLaughlin or Yngwie Malmsteen.


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Direct Link To This Post Posted: July 21 2012 at 23:37
Originally posted by Horizons Horizons wrote:

Omar Rodriguez-Lopez is my all time favorite guitarist. Very technical in a on-shredding way. 


I saw an interview with him where he said that he didn't consider himself much of a guitarist.  This is somewhat discouraging.  If Omar Rodriguez-Lopez isn't much of a guitarist, then I might as well give up because he sure is better than I am LOL.

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