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    Posted: July 19 2005 at 11:13

I just bought that album - fantastic. Fates Warning meets Symphony X meets Pain Of Salvation. It features Ray Alder of Fates Warning ...

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Points: 21779 		Direct Link To This Post Posted: July 19 2005 at 11:48

Here's a full sample track from their website for your listening pleasure:

http://ivorygate.com/redemption/audio/tfot_threads.mp3

Visit http://ivorygate.com/redemption for more info on the band.
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Points: 21779 		Direct Link To This Post Posted: August 27 2005 at 17:49

bump.

Now that I've listened to the album extensively, I cannot help noticing some serious plagiarism here. Am I the only one to see the obvious Symphony X and Dream Theater references? On www.progressiveworld.net the album was reviewed as a masterpiece ... I would agree, if there weren't these obvious similarities ...

Does anyone else notice this?
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Points: 27802 		Direct Link To This Post Posted: August 29 2005 at 09:17
I have only been able to listen to a few tracks off the album,have had a very hard time finding it.


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Points: 27802 		Direct Link To This Post Posted: August 29 2005 at 14:07
From what I have heard I don't think they are totally original sounding,but not quite derivative.So much of the prog metal coming out now is coming from people that were inspired by bands like Dream Theater,Symphony X and the like,so you are going to see the obvious influences in their music.


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Points: 206 		Direct Link To This Post Posted: September 03 2005 at 09:51
I got the album a few days ago, the first thing that struck me was, Wow, this sounds really  promising. But one minute into the first song, there's this blatant ripoff from Symphony X. Listen to:

-Threads at around 1.17 This sounds SO famlilar - Accolade II at 5.00 (thanks MikeEnRegalia)

Then in the next song there's the same thing:

- Parker's Eye at about 1.20  - a rip from Edge of forever at 2.05 -> !

This is NOT acceptable .


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^ It's in The Odyssey - Accolade II (5:00). 
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Hmm, both Michael Romeo and Jason Rullo from Symphony X were involved in the first Redemption album (named "Redemption"), so one could speculate that Mr. Romeo must have something to do with the apparent copying on "The fullness of time"... Maybe just fooling around a little during the recording? 
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Points: 21779 		Direct Link To This Post Posted: September 03 2005 at 10:38

Originally posted by Progzilla Progzilla wrote:

Hmm, both Michael Romeo and Jason Rullo from Symphony X were involved in the first Redemption album (named "Redemption"), so one could speculate that Mr. Romeo must have something to do with the apparent copying on "The fullness of time"... Maybe just fooling around a little during the recording? 

I guess that they authorised these musical "citations" ... but I think they should have mentioned it in the booklet, or at least on their website.
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