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Direct Link To This Post Posted: December 29 2012 at 21:08
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Counterparts - T4E:  Alternative rock


Ho ho!  No.

Tons of progressive rock in those albums!  Underrated as hell too.
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Direct Link To This Post Posted: December 29 2012 at 21:15
Originally posted by Epignosis Epignosis wrote:

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Counterparts - T4E:  Alternative rock


Ho ho!  No.

Tons of progressive rock in those albums!  Underrated as hell too.


I consider them "progressive" in the literal sense, but not "progressive rock."
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Direct Link To This Post Posted: December 29 2012 at 21:20
Originally posted by Ambient Hurricanes Ambient Hurricanes wrote:

Originally posted by Epignosis Epignosis wrote:

Originally posted by Ambient Hurricanes Ambient Hurricanes wrote:


Counterparts - T4E:  Alternative rock


Ho ho!  No.

Tons of progressive rock in those albums!  Underrated as hell too.


I consider them "progressive" in the literal sense, but not "progressive rock."


Then your definition of progressive rock is silly.  Tongue

To not be glib here:

Take away "The Camera Eye," and Moving Pictures is a shorter version of Counterparts.

Take away "Natural Science," and Permanent Waves is a shorter version of Test for Echo.
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Direct Link To This Post Posted: December 29 2012 at 21:22
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Originally posted by Horizons Horizons wrote:

Vapor Trails is lacking progressiveness just as much as any album after it. 
Rush, since 2002, have been in the same vein as bands like Muse.


I've always thought of VT as a full-blown prog album;  sure, it's not "progressive" on a grand epic scale like Hemispheres, but it's easily Rush's most complex album ever, complete with layers upon layers of instruments and vocals and tricky time changes you don't even know are there until you actually try to count them.

I'm sorry but VP being their most complex album is just silliness. 
The drums alone is a clear, distinct sign of a lesser technicality on the album.
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Direct Link To This Post Posted: December 29 2012 at 21:26
Originally posted by Horizons Horizons wrote:

Originally posted by Ambient Hurricanes Ambient Hurricanes wrote:

Originally posted by Horizons Horizons wrote:

Vapor Trails is lacking progressiveness just as much as any album after it. 
Rush, since 2002, have been in the same vein as bands like Muse.


I've always thought of VT as a full-blown prog album;  sure, it's not "progressive" on a grand epic scale like Hemispheres, but it's easily Rush's most complex album ever, complete with layers upon layers of instruments and vocals and tricky time changes you don't even know are there until you actually try to count them.

I'm sorry but VP being their most complex album is just silliness. 
The drums alone is a clear, distinct sign of a lesser technicality on the album.


I said "complex," not "technical," but I'm sure you know what you're talking about concerning the drums, as you're a drummer and I'm not and couldn't begin to understand everything that's going on drum-wise in a Rush album.

We're probably operating off two different definitions of "complex."  I think that Rush's classic albums are more complex "horizontally" while VT is more complex "vertically;" I think of the former as very complex in rhythm, arrangement, in the way the songs unfold in an epic fashion, etc, while I think of the latter as more complex harmonically and melodically.
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Direct Link To This Post Posted: December 29 2012 at 21:28
Originally posted by Epignosis Epignosis wrote:

Originally posted by Ambient Hurricanes Ambient Hurricanes wrote:

Originally posted by Epignosis Epignosis wrote:

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Counterparts - T4E:  Alternative rock


Ho ho!  No.

Tons of progressive rock in those albums!  Underrated as hell too.


I consider them "progressive" in the literal sense, but not "progressive rock."


Then your definition of progressive rock is silly.  Tongue

To not be glib here:

Take away "The Camera Eye," and Moving Pictures is a shorter version of Counterparts.

Take away "Natural Science," and Permanent Waves is a shorter version of Test for Echo.


Maybe I need to go and listen to Counterparts and T4E some more!
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Direct Link To This Post Posted: December 29 2012 at 21:34
Originally posted by Ambient Hurricanes Ambient Hurricanes wrote:

Originally posted by Epignosis Epignosis wrote:

Originally posted by Ambient Hurricanes Ambient Hurricanes wrote:

Originally posted by Epignosis Epignosis wrote:

Originally posted by Ambient Hurricanes Ambient Hurricanes wrote:


Counterparts - T4E:  Alternative rock


Ho ho!  No.

Tons of progressive rock in those albums!  Underrated as hell too.


I consider them "progressive" in the literal sense, but not "progressive rock."


Then your definition of progressive rock is silly.  Tongue

To not be glib here:

Take away "The Camera Eye," and Moving Pictures is a shorter version of Counterparts.

Take away "Natural Science," and Permanent Waves is a shorter version of Test for Echo.


Maybe I need to go and listen to Counterparts and T4E some more!


Whatever excuse you need to listen to Rush!  AMIRITE????  Wink
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Direct Link To This Post Posted: December 29 2012 at 21:36
And in honor of that, AH, if you name a Rush album I have to listen to right now (as I write my novel), I will name one you have to listen to right now.  Deal?  Big smile
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Direct Link To This Post Posted: December 29 2012 at 21:39
Originally posted by Epignosis Epignosis wrote:

Originally posted by Ambient Hurricanes Ambient Hurricanes wrote:

Originally posted by Epignosis Epignosis wrote:

Originally posted by Ambient Hurricanes Ambient Hurricanes wrote:

Originally posted by Epignosis Epignosis wrote:

Originally posted by Ambient Hurricanes Ambient Hurricanes wrote:


Counterparts - T4E:  Alternative rock


Ho ho!  No.

Tons of progressive rock in those albums!  Underrated as hell too.


I consider them "progressive" in the literal sense, but not "progressive rock."


Then your definition of progressive rock is silly.  Tongue

To not be glib here:

Take away "The Camera Eye," and Moving Pictures is a shorter version of Counterparts.

Take away "Natural Science," and Permanent Waves is a shorter version of Test for Echo.


Maybe I need to go and listen to Counterparts and T4E some more!


Whatever excuse you need to listen to Rush!  AMIRITE????  Wink


Yep pretty much Tongue.

Listening to Alien Shore right now, because I posted it in another thread.  Yeah, it's more progressive then Entre Nous, or Limelight, or Vital Signs...
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Direct Link To This Post Posted: December 29 2012 at 21:41
Originally posted by Epignosis Epignosis wrote:

And in honor of that, AH, if you name a Rush album I have to listen to right now (as I write my novel), I will name one you have to listen to right now.  Deal?  Big smile


Sure why not.

Err...Caress of Steel
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Direct Link To This Post Posted: December 29 2012 at 21:43
Originally posted by Ambient Hurricanes Ambient Hurricanes wrote:

Originally posted by Epignosis Epignosis wrote:

And in honor of that, AH, if you name a Rush album I have to listen to right now (as I write my novel), I will name one you have to listen to right now.  Deal?  Big smile


Sure why not.

Err...Caress of Steel


Lemme get me headphones!

For you: Hold Your Fire.  Hated it as a teen.  Love it now.
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Direct Link To This Post Posted: December 29 2012 at 21:49
Originally posted by Epignosis Epignosis wrote:

Originally posted by Ambient Hurricanes Ambient Hurricanes wrote:

Originally posted by Epignosis Epignosis wrote:

And in honor of that, AH, if you name a Rush album I have to listen to right now (as I write my novel), I will name one you have to listen to right now.  Deal?  Big smile


Sure why not.

Err...Caress of Steel


Lemme get me headphones!

For you: Hold Your Fire.  Hated it as a teen.  Love it now.


*getting off computer* *going to listen to album* *hoping ipod doesn't die on me before it's over*
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Direct Link To This Post Posted: December 29 2012 at 21:54
I THINK I'M GOING BALD GRAY
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^But even when you're gray, you'll still be gray your way Wink
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Direct Link To This Post Posted: December 29 2012 at 23:16
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^But even when you're gray, you'll still be gray your way Wink


Nope.  I'm married.  I'll be gray her way!
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How did Caress of Steel go this time?
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Direct Link To This Post Posted: December 29 2012 at 23:19
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How did Caress of Steel go this time?


Loved it.  How about HYF?

Also, have you heard the new Echolyn?  It's on Bandcamp.


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Direct Link To This Post Posted: December 29 2012 at 23:26
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How did Caress of Steel go this time?


Loved it.  How about HYF?

Also, have you heard the new Echolyn?  It's on Bandcamp.


Even better than the last time Big smile.  You know you have a great album on your hands when it makes you think deep thoughts while you're listening.

I have listened to Echolyn's newest; I should probably give it another spin sometime in the near future.  It was very good, although I wish they would have included a larger dose of the heavy material contained in the first track.

What do you think about Tai Shan, by the way?
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Direct Link To This Post Posted: December 29 2012 at 23:29
Originally posted by Ambient Hurricanes Ambient Hurricanes wrote:

Originally posted by Epignosis Epignosis wrote:

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How did Caress of Steel go this time?


Loved it.  How about HYF?

Also, have you heard the new Echolyn?  It's on Bandcamp.


Even better than the last time Big smile.  You know you have a great album on your hands when it makes you think deep thoughts while you're listening.

I have listened to Echolyn's newest; I should probably give it another spin sometime in the near future.  It was very good, although I wish they would have included a larger dose of the heavy material contained in the first track.

What do you think about Tai Shan, by the way?


Oh I used to hate it.  Now I find it a peaceful reprieve. 
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Direct Link To This Post Posted: December 29 2012 at 23:31
Originally posted by Epignosis Epignosis wrote:

Originally posted by Ambient Hurricanes Ambient Hurricanes wrote:

Originally posted by Epignosis Epignosis wrote:

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How did Caress of Steel go this time?


Loved it.  How about HYF?

Also, have you heard the new Echolyn?  It's on Bandcamp.


Even better than the last time Big smile.  You know you have a great album on your hands when it makes you think deep thoughts while you're listening.

I have listened to Echolyn's newest; I should probably give it another spin sometime in the near future.  It was very good, although I wish they would have included a larger dose of the heavy material contained in the first track.

What do you think about Tai Shan, by the way?


Oh I used to hate it.  Now I find it a peaceful reprieve. 


I think it's an excellent song on it's own, but that it didn't fit on the album that well.  It takes the momentum away a bit, in my opinion, and I think HYF would have flowed better if they just went straight from Turn the Page into High Water.  To me, Tai Shan sounds more like a standalone single, or maybe it would just have been better placed somewhere else on the album.
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