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Post Options Post Options   Thanks (0) Thanks(0)   Quote darkshade Quote  Post ReplyReply Direct Link To This Post Posted: January 10 2013 at 13:05
The reason ADTOE was a little safe was to show the fans that the band could still write great DT music without Portnoy. However, I think the next album will be more important, because if it doesn't push their sound forward and continue to do "more of the same", I feel a lot of fans will lose much interest in the band. 
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It is official. DREAM THEATER are set to release their new album SEPTEMBER 23rd, 2013!

Now, my question is what can we expect? Dream Theater have made it abundantly clear that, as a band, they are shifting into new direction with drummer Mike Mangini, so much so the new album will be self titled DREAM THEATER to represent all things that are truly dream theater. The band now feels the time is right to have a self titled album due to the nature of what the new album will represent. Clearly this is a special time in DT history, so of course my question to all you fellow proggers and fans, what can we expect and possibly hope for?

Here is the official link. Sorry that you most likely will have to copy/paste it, since I do not have a PC at this time.    

http://www.progrockmag.com/news/dream-theater-announce-new-album-details/



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September 23rd release date!

Now I've noticed in this for page thread that people keep talking about the last album (ADTOE) instead of actually divulging critical thought towards the NEW DIRECTION that Dream Theater will ultimately be taking.
Anyway. Let's not about ADTOE any longer and give insight to possible DT inceptions for a self titled release: DREAM THEATER.

:)

I also started a forum specifically related to this topic. Come join in on the fun.   
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Here's what we know so far:

- The album will be self-titled
- Mike Mangini was heavily involved in the writing process
- The album has at least one instrumental
- There is a "Opening" track
- The album will have an epic (or a very epic sounding song)
- There is a symphony orchestra on the album, possibly on every track
- The guitars must sound like chocolate cake
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Sounds encouraging. Now with the DT plight of going off in this new, direction they are speaking off I hope DT don't end up sounding ultra modern like RIVERSIDE or something. Not saying I'm worried, but I think this album may be dramatically different, especially if the guitars sound like chocolate cake!! Lol ill have a piece of that PETRUCCI pie. Lol
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Post Options Post Options   Thanks (0) Thanks(0)   Quote Wanorak Quote  Post ReplyReply Direct Link To This Post Posted: June 07 2013 at 14:41
I have mixed feelings about this news. while I like DT they have been treading water for a few albums. I think they need a new, outside producer to cut down on their needless noodling and work on songcraft. Since John Petrucci is producing again, I think we can expect more of the same DT. It's unfortunate as I think they have the talent to make a brilliant prog album, not just prog metal.
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Originally posted by Wanorak Wanorak wrote:

I have mixed feelings about this news. while I like DT they have been treading water for a few albums. I think they need a new, outside producer to cut down on their needless noodling and work on songcraft. Since John Petrucci is producing again, I think we can expect more of the same DT. It's unfortunate as I think they have the talent to make a brilliant prog album, not just prog metal.


I thought ADTOE was a step in the right direction, as far as crafting the music to be more than just noodle-fests, and a barrage of heavy riffs. It was a tighter album than the previous 2 MP dominated albums.

Based on the recent YouTube videos, I have a strong suspicion that the metal factor in their music had dropped considerably, and the prog factor has been increased. I'm sure there will be heavy moments, as with all their albums, but it may be more in line with SFAM, SDOIT, ADTOE, and 8VM (with the orchestra and all.)

The band can obviously make great prog classics, each album since SDOIT, regardless of your preferences, have all had at least one really progressive song on it.
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I'd love a DT album that was drastically different from previous albums.
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^I think it would be cool to hear some jazzy stuff on the album; not "let me dazzle you with my soloing wizardry" jazz but stuff that incorporates some of the harmonic intricacy and groove you find in jazz and transplants it into a progressive metal context.  With an orchestra.
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Post Options Post Options   Thanks (0) Thanks(0)   Quote Catcher10 Quote  Post ReplyReply Direct Link To This Post Posted: June 07 2013 at 16:16
Its all on-line posting fluff by Petrucci.......the proof is in the pudding (not cake, though I luv cake..), when the album comes out of the oven....The judging will then begin.
I like that they chose a self-titled album

But it needs to be brilliant!


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Originally posted by Ambient Hurricanes Ambient Hurricanes wrote:

^I think it would be cool to hear some jazzy stuff on the album; not "let me dazzle you with my soloing wizardry" jazz but stuff that incorporates some of the harmonic intricacy and groove you find in jazz and transplants it into a progressive metal context.  With an orchestra.



Yeah. Bring back the saxophone like in ANOTHER DAY, but more edgy. :)
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Originally posted by Catcher10 Catcher10 wrote:

Its all on-line posting fluff by Petrucci.......the proof is in the pudding (not cake, though I luv cake..), when the album comes out of the oven....The judging will then begin.
I like that they chose a self-titled album
But it needs to be brilliant!


You gonna buy it on vinyl? I bet ya are. It is a bigger cake then a cd. :)
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Originally posted by darkshade darkshade wrote:

I'd love a DT album that was drastically different from previous albums.




Yeah. Train of thought to Octavarium. That was a nice switch. Wow. :)
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Originally posted by progbethyname progbethyname wrote:

Originally posted by Ambient Hurricanes Ambient Hurricanes wrote:

^I think it would be cool to hear some jazzy stuff on the album; not "let me dazzle you with my soloing wizardry" jazz but stuff that incorporates some of the harmonic intricacy and groove you find in jazz and transplants it into a progressive metal context.  With an orchestra.



Yeah. Bring back the saxophone like in ANOTHER DAY, but more edgy. :)

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Originally posted by Snow Dog Snow Dog wrote:


Originally posted by progbethyname progbethyname wrote:

Originally posted by Ambient Hurricanes Ambient Hurricanes wrote:

^I think it would be cool to hear some jazzy stuff on the album; not "let me dazzle you with my soloing wizardry" jazz but stuff that incorporates some of the harmonic intricacy and groove you find in jazz and transplants it into a progressive metal context.  With an orchestra.



Yeah. Bring back the saxophone like in ANOTHER DAY, but more edgy. :)

Oh no for f**k's sake Noooooooooooo!

Oh, I totally second that cry of despair!

If they approach any sax playing like so many prog bands did in the 70's, where it was wild, exciting and dirty, played like the instrument should be, we might be fine.

I don't think I could stand any more drippy, schmaltzy soft-jazz sax like on that track. It's that sort of stuff why so many people instantly write the instrument off completely.
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Originally posted by darkshade darkshade wrote:

Here's what we know so far:

- The album will be self-titled
- Mike Mangini was heavily involved in the writing process
- The album has at least one instrumental
- There is a "Opening" track
- The album will have an epic (or a very epic sounding song)
- There is a symphony orchestra on the album, possibly on every track
- The guitars must sound like chocolate cake
Your hands are really itching to get hold of a copy of that album, ain't that true? Just let the band do their thing and come out with a present that you may or may not like. You'll ruin the fun of it.
Originally posted by darkshade darkshade wrote:

- Mike Mangini was heavily involved in the writing process
- The album has at least one instrumental
Now that is good news. Thanks for ruining it for me, chocolate cake.
Originally posted by darkshade darkshade wrote:

I'd love a DT album that was drastically different from previous albums.
Same here.


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Yeah. I know the Saxaphone bit will definitely not make its wonderful appearance on the new album, but I guess overall I've wondered what an amped up version of ANOTHER DAY would sound like.
My guilty pleasure I guess seeing as how I'm making some people cry with my love for the sax on ANOTHER DAY.
It is a great song. Sorry guys. It is. :)
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Looking forward to this; I really loved ADTOE, so I have high hopes for this one.

Also, I like the sound of chocolate-cake guitars.
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Originally posted by Snow Dog Snow Dog wrote:

Originally posted by progbethyname progbethyname wrote:

Originally posted by Ambient Hurricanes Ambient Hurricanes wrote:

^I think it would be cool to hear some jazzy stuff on the album; not "let me dazzle you with my soloing wizardry" jazz but stuff that incorporates some of the harmonic intricacy and groove you find in jazz and transplants it into a progressive metal context.  With an orchestra.



Yeah. Bring back the saxophone like in ANOTHER DAY, but more edgy. :)

Oh no for f**k's sake Noooooooooooo!

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Originally posted by Aussie-Byrd-Brother Aussie-Byrd-Brother wrote:

Originally posted by Snow Dog Snow Dog wrote:


Originally posted by progbethyname progbethyname wrote:

Originally posted by Ambient Hurricanes Ambient Hurricanes wrote:

^I think it would be cool to hear some jazzy stuff on the album; not "let me dazzle you with my soloing wizardry" jazz but stuff that incorporates some of the harmonic intricacy and groove you find in jazz and transplants it into a progressive metal context.  With an orchestra.



Yeah. Bring back the saxophone like in ANOTHER DAY, but more edgy. :)

Oh no for f**k's sake Noooooooooooo!

Oh, I totally second that cry of despair!

If they approach any sax playing like so many prog bands did in the 70's, where it was wild, exciting and dirty, played like the instrument should be, we might be fine.

I don't think I could stand any more drippy, schmaltzy soft-jazz sax like on that track. It's that sort of stuff why so many people instantly write the instrument off completely.


Agreed.  By "Jazzy" I didn't mean "with sax!"  Although it would be pretty awesome if they could get what's-his-face from VdGG to make an appearance on the album.

I actually like Another Day, though.
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