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Mr. Soot Gremlin
Forum Newbie Joined: July 08 2011 Location: St. Cleve Status: Offline Points: 7 |
Posted: April 08 2013 at 15:18 | ||
Actually, I was wrong. I actually do like "Broadsword and the Beast", which I think is a great example of how synthesizers can be used well in rock music and not just as a gimmick. With the electronic stuff, I guess Ian Anderson just wanted to take the band in a different direction again, which I respect, but it just doesn't affect me the way albums like Aqualung, TAAB, or Minstrel in the Gallery do.
Oh, and I love Stormwatch! The band left the 70s on a really high note, in my opinion. |
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stegor
Forum Senior Member Joined: March 23 2013 Location: Minnesota Status: Offline Points: 1988 |
Posted: April 12 2013 at 22:22 | ||
The biggest disappointment for me was When Ian Anderson sacked John Evan, Barrie Barlow and David Palmer. Especially Evan and Barlow. I was anticipating another great new bassist to replace Glascock after his death and instead he just sacks the whole band except Martin. So I crossed my fingers and waited for the next album. The second I looked at the cover I knew it sucked. This was not Jethro Tull. I mean, I love Eddie Jobson, but what a mismatch. I have never been able to listen to it. Of course it's been a steady stream of boring band members ever since.
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infocat
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Posted: April 13 2013 at 00:51 | ||
One should remember that A was recorded as an Ian Anderson solo album. Only afterward was it released as a JT album.
Wikipedia says: "A was recorded as an intended Ian Anderson solo album before Tull's record label, Chrysalis, asked that it become credited to the group to help the label get through overall slow record sales. This is the reason for the album's title, as the tapes were marked "A" for "Anderson". It is noted for its more synthesiser-based sound, a fact which creates controversy among many of the band's fans. On the other hand, it features a folk-influenced piece "The Pine Marten's Jig"." |
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The.Crimson.King
Forum Senior Member Joined: March 29 2013 Location: WA Status: Offline Points: 4591 |
Posted: April 13 2013 at 07:22 | ||
I felt the same way. I cannot stand Dave Pegg and thought he was a horrible replacement for Glascock. Tull had always had such cool bassists. Even when they toured on "Bursting Out", replacement bassist Tony Williams was a great fit. I've read that Barlow wasn't sacked, but that he quit after the death of Glascock.
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stegor
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Posted: April 13 2013 at 09:14 | ||
Yeah, I've heard both stories about sacked vs quit. At the time it was reported that they were fired, but later the story changed. I think Barlow was going to leave either way because of John's death and the music was getting to be a bit too "Rumpety tumpety tump" for his tastes.
John Evan made it very clear he was let go. I understand Ian realized the 70's were over and he had to do something different but I don't think he realized how important those guys were to the band. It wasn't all about him. And I agree about Dave Pegg. He always came across like he was trying too hard to be a showman. Watching him on video of the A tour is painful. That goofy grin and his bobbing back and forth. Just kinda dorky. Glascock was awesome. I didn't appreciate him enough at the time because Jeffrey's green boots were tough to fill, but when I saw them on the Songs from the Wood tour he was awesome. And the Carmen albums are brilliant. And his huge hair made up for Martin's lack thereof. Now that I think about it, I wonder if Tull's strength was contained in their collective hair follicles. The more hair they had the better they were. Here's a shot I took of him on the Heavy Horses tour. I stuck it inside an album sleeve for some reason and my basement flooded. I found it years later stuck to the record and it looked like this! Can't do that with Photoshop. |
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The.Crimson.King
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Posted: April 13 2013 at 09:54 | ||
Brilliant photo...though you had to go to great extremes to get it I saw Glascock twice, on both the "Too Old..." and "Songs from the Wood" tours. What I used to love about Tull in concert was they were like a 5 ring circus with everybody doing their own unique and crazy things. Your description of Dave Pegg as "dorky" is perfect. He was like a fish out of water on the "Stormwatch" tour...Tull just kept falling downhill after that (though I did like the Crest of a Knave tour - I just ignored Dave Pegg and Don Airey's kybd solo was this sequenced-synth thing that was all flash and no substance...tried to ignore that too).
Edited by The.Crimson.King - April 13 2013 at 11:44 |
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Earendil
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Posted: April 15 2013 at 12:26 | ||
Sleeping in Traffic Pt 2 hooked me on Beardfish, and I think it's a masterpiece, but that their last two (especially The Void) are pretty regressive. Hopefully they move back to being more Gentle Giant-esque instead of this unconvincing heaviness.
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moshkito
Forum Senior Member Joined: January 04 2007 Location: Grok City Status: Offline Points: 16165 |
Posted: April 23 2013 at 13:27 | ||
Not when the record companies are lining up telling you that they will give you amounts of money you had not even dreamed about before ... !!!!!!! Like Robert Redford once said ... "I would be stupid to not take the $20 million to speak 5 lines and be there for a total of 10 minutes!" ... (and I will add ... ) ... what they do with the movie I don't care ... I now can live my dream in Utah! ...
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tamijo
Forum Senior Member Joined: January 06 2009 Location: Denmark Status: Offline Points: 4287 |
Posted: April 24 2013 at 06:44 | ||
I would definately have continualy made more copies of what i had allready done, to keep my narrowminded fans happy, even if i had to tour for 25 years playing music, I was totaly bored with, together with people i was fed up with, and had no common artistic ambition with, I would be totaly indiffrent to the fact that everyone else was moving in other directions at the time, and i would just sell the house moving into a flat, cos i dont care about millions of $.
OR NOT
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Prog is whatevey you want it to be. So dont diss other peoples prog, and they wont diss yours
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Metalmarsh89
Forum Senior Member Joined: January 15 2013 Location: Oregon, USA Status: Offline Points: 2673 |
Posted: May 02 2013 at 10:55 | ||
I found Dream Theater's Chaos in Motion live album rather disappointing. I didn't like the idea of combining different parts of several different shows into one live album. The energy and magic doesn't flow well at all. Also LaBrie sounded much, much better when I saw them last year.
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JaySpiral
Forum Newbie Joined: April 30 2013 Location: Oregon Status: Offline Points: 22 |
Posted: May 02 2013 at 18:03 | ||
The Mars Volta and Porcupine Tree both split up
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horza
Prog Reviewer Joined: August 31 2005 Location: United Kingdom Status: Offline Points: 2530 |
Posted: May 04 2013 at 14:52 | ||
I saw Dream Theater during the Chaos in Motion tour in support of the Systematic Chaos album. They were awesome and this DVD set captured the overall ambience perfectly. It was totally acceptable in my opinion to incorporate different shows into one live album. The photo slideshow at the end had a snapshot taken at the Braehead Arena in Glasgow where I saw them. It was pretty cool to think that I was in the background of that photo somewhere. |
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Metalmarsh89
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Posted: May 04 2013 at 17:01 | ||
I'm glad you enjoyed it. I'd still watch it again, but I have a few other of their live DVD's that I know I prefer. |
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Earthmover
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Posted: May 04 2013 at 17:55 | ||
King Crimson - not releasing at least one mediocre album to give some advantage to other prog bands.
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progbethyname
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Posted: May 10 2013 at 01:40 | ||
I really liked it to. 5 disc set I bought. 3 CDs and 2 dvd's. Tons of fun!! |
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progbethyname
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Posted: May 10 2013 at 01:47 | ||
Do you like the album, In Absentia? Seems to be what a lot of Porcupine tree fans adore. Trains was a cool track, but a tad on the IMO side for me. |
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progbethyname
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Posted: May 10 2013 at 01:51 | ||
Oh come on!!! A Dramatic Turn is awesome and you know it!!! |
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progbethyname
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Posted: May 10 2013 at 01:55 | ||
Agreed. It's FALLING INTO INFINITY that is a huge f**kin disappointment. Ouch. Not a good album as a whole. |
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Aussie-Byrd-Brother
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Posted: May 10 2013 at 02:00 | ||
Don't get me wrong, I do really like the album, `Gravity Eyelids', `Lips Of Ashes', `.3', `Heart Attack In A Layby', `Trains' all really do it for me. But when it came out, the heavier elements kind of stuck out and broke up any continued and growing sense of mood, which every Porcupine Tree album had done so well up until that point! But I think the anonymous noisy metal attack of `Wedding Nails' is totally out of place for them (as much as I think it's not all that bad), and `Prodigal' is very bland. |
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progbethyname
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Posted: May 10 2013 at 02:06 | ||
Fugazi(all f**ked up all screwed up) is brilliant! |
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