Prog For Meditation

moshkito wrote: progbethyname wrote: thellama73 wrote: The aim of meditation is to silence the mind. I don't see how you could possibly achieve that with music on, much less prog music. No true at all. Music can help access, like a tuning fork would, to certain parts of your conscientious. Meditation alone is not based strictly on 'silence.' but then again, this is just from my experience only. It works differently for everyone. :)   The "trigger" to get one inside, can be anything ... a tuning fork, music, words, chanting, just about anything.   The issue/problem with it all, at times, is finding the right wording for documenting and expressing what it was like and what you felt. Sometimes, that part is totally secondary to the actual feeling of "being there", and the energy and effort to explain to anyone ... most of which do not listen anyway ... is a wasted effort and you stop doing it after the first or second effort.   There are some excellent books on these, and the "different" ways this stuff works. Robert Monroe, calls it out of body experiences, but they accumulate the same thing, and he is very good at the talking point ... though I think people will get confused when he describes the earth's aura and its pull, not only magnetically, but also physically, and what it does for our minds and bodies. Carlos Castaneda, used some psychedelics, and later had a great joke about it ... "were the drugs necessary? Of course not stupid, we just had to shut you up long enough to get something done!" ... and a lot of people don't like don Juan's strength and attitude, but his stories and theories are excellent and "The Art of Dreaming" is one of the very best books EVER on dreaming! I like Tahisha Abelar and Florinda Donner, both from the Castaneda camp, and they are far better writers than he is! And their work resonates better with your physical space, than his, which comes off as too mental!

Well again, you touch upon my point with the so called 'tuning forks' or mind accessors. Psychedelics can be a key contributor to access or channel different parts of your mind. I really like the case study done by Dr. Rick Strassman in his book, DMT The Spirit Molecule. His findings are exceptional. Give it a read.
DMT is commonly used for meditation or communal with the dead/spirit world. It's true. I've done the most powerful psychedelics this planet has to offer, namely Ayahuasca and Iboga. You can be transformed and hurled into higher levels of your conscience very quickly like being shot out of a canon. :)

presdoug wrote: I read something about meditation that i wanted to share, that i found interesting.         In meditation, you're not trying to "achieve" anything. Throw that out the window.      In a sense, you are "letting go", like a heavy weight has been lifted from your shoulders.           Don't try too hard to do something with it, just let it be.

Beautiful post. A thing of beauty really. I agree with it. I love the philosophy of just letting go or let things be to achieve a higher level of conscience or peace with in you. :)

Hi,

A few days ago, on french tv, I watched a documentary about bouddist monks who maked traditional dances. Their goal was to have an active meditation while they danced. So now, I think it is possible to meditate if you listen to cool music (Days Between Stations, No-Man, Nosound, ...).  

Whenever i listen to any music, i empty my mind and focus on the music only, and usually don't engage in any other activity or even move when i listen. Sometimes i close my eyes as well. Is that sort of meditation? If it is, then depending on my mood, anything would suffice.(anything in my collection, i mean)
     Lately early Wishbone Ash have been really doing it for me.

Edited by presdoug - July 28 2013 at 11:46

The Mystical wrote: I have recently begun to meditate, and I like to meditate with music as it gives me a spiritual lift. I have tried with all kinds of albums, and so far my favourites are Glass Hammer's "Chronometree" and Ozric Tentacles' "Jurassic Shift". Can anybody recommend any prog that would be good for meditation? Also, please feel free to share your experiences in meditation. Peace!

You know what, that Ozric album can work. Just not for me though. :)

Meditation works differently in all of us and can be quite subjective because of how meditation can bestow so many unique experiences with in an individual.

But, here are a few albums that have certainly put me in an 'outer world' experience or even just to relax and feel 100% at peace with myself and my surroundings. Also, sometimes I like to go a darker realm of things, so moody ambience can be quite tranquil with me as well. I find some vocal music can work well too. :) Anyway. Here are a few albums that I love deeply to help sedate the savage beast that I am. Lol

Tangerine Dream--Hyperborea, Logos, Rubycon and Phaedra
Klaus Schultze--Kontinuum, Moondawn and La Vie Electronique vol. 1
Dead Can Dance--Anastasis
Kevin Moore--Shine
ZOMBI---Spirit Animal
Pink Floyd--Darkside of The Moon    
Nine Inch Nails--Ghosts pt 1-36
Vangelis--El Greco, BladeRunner Soundtrack, Albedo 0.39, Spiral and The City
Marc Streitenfield--The Grey (movie score.)
The Future Sound of London--Dead Cities
Brain Eno--Ambient Music 4--On Land
Shamall--This is Human Behaviour.

thellama73 wrote: The aim of meditation is to silence the mind. I don't see how you could possibly achieve that with music on, much less prog music.

I'm with him, that's why I meditate to Buckethead's heavy metal albums.

timothy leary wrote: thellama73 wrote: The aim of meditation is to silence the mind. I don't see how you could possibly achieve that with music on, much less prog music. There are some masters who say the highest state can only be reached through music but it certainly was not Glass Hammer they were talking about.

 

Ajay wrote: I meditate without music, to experience the "silence."

I do the same. First, I listen to a CD (progressive music, hard-rock, classic rock, ...). And 10 mn after the end of the album, I meditate during 20 mn.

I only use atmospheric rock music (post-rock and progressive rock) when I magnetize people (Days Between Stations, No-Man, Nosound, ...).