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Joined: October 12 2011
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Posted: March 19 2013 at 05:07
Oh, Jim and Tom, you know me....beautiful acid-fried `Baxters' for me! Though really, all these albums are terrific, even that embryonic, upbeat and poppy debut album :)
Jim, I wonder, have you heard a band called the Peanut Butter Conspiracy, especially their second album `The Great Conspiracy'??
Joined: June 23 2005
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Posted: March 19 2013 at 11:16
I can't believe I never started one. One of my favorite bands. I'm even into the Paul Kantner solo stuff and of course Jefferson Starship, before they lost the Jefferson part.
Baxters is my favorite, although I love everything from Pillow to Volunteers, and even Bark is pretty cool. And parts of the JA reunion album from 89 had some worthy stuff on it, namely the Kantner and Kaukonen songs.
I can understand your anger at me, but what did the horse I rode in on ever do to you?
Joined: September 03 2005
Location: Olympus Mons
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Posted: March 19 2013 at 21:57
The Doctor wrote:
I can't believe I never started one. One of my favorite bands. I'm even into the Paul Kantner solo stuff and of course Jefferson Starship, before they lost the Jefferson part.
Oooooh yeah !! How good is Blows Against The Empire ?? Or, Freedom At Point Zero for a kick-ass album....? Man, Mickey Thomas has an amazing set of pipes.........
Baron Von Tollbooth & The Chrome Nun has some superb tracks and lots of Mellotron !!
And I love the heaviness of Long John Silver............Casady remains one of my all-time favourite bass heroes.
Can't forget The Dead or Quicksilver too. Perhaps we should start up a 'West Coast psych scene' thread ??
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Posted: March 20 2013 at 12:58
Hi,
I have a lot of JA, Paul and Grace's work, and like it a lot. And I can see where a lot of it inspired Europeans and then some ... however, I think that JA got too stuck on their personality things that hurt the folks a lot, but you got to admit that the material is excellent, and then you hear "Ride the Tiger" and "Caroline" later and you go ... son of a gun ... still good after all that dope!
I hope, that before I pass away, that I can put together a book that shows how much these folks liked the Europeans and vice versa ... even though you can't see it. AD2 was massive on the California stuff and their lyrics are the only psychedelic lyrics that have very good literary content, and are not stupid. Even Herman Hesse wrote stuff like that ... but we didn't get inspired by it? .. think again!
Music is not just for listening ... it is for LIVING ... you got to feel it to know what's it about! Not being told! www.pedrosena.com
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Posted: January 19 2017 at 11:48
I vote the 'Surrealistic Pillow', because this was my first Jefferson' album and because it contains my favourite songs 'Somebody to Love" and 'White Rabbit'. Great album.
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Posted: January 21 2017 at 08:04
Tom Ozric wrote:
Long John Silver is heavy as !!! What an album.
never saw this poll, I guess Jim has the same bad poll mojo I have, every poll is destined for the dustbins of topic history. In fact I went years here before I ever had a poll that reached enough replies to make it to a page 2.
that said... what a toughie... well not really as my favorite is such a favorite.. but they all were great albums in their own ways.
Takes Off - Micky loves him some Signe. Yeah Grace smoked her in looks, sexual drive, stage presence, star qualityand all that political sh*t but god almighty did Signe have some pipes.
best song - High Flying Bird hon. mention - It's No Secret (trying not singing along or dancing along to this imagining yourself tripping on acid in some 1940's converted ballroom with acid, incence, and ballons all about) Surrealistic Pillow - Outside of Jack, I always thought Marty was 'catch' with this group. What a voice!!!!!!This album was his masterpiece with the group. Yeah, his input diminished over the years as the Grace/Paul and Jorma/Jack factions reigned supreme, but this album was his masterpiece with the group.
best song - 3/5 of a Mile in 10 Seconds (one of the few J.A. songs that was better on the studio albums than live. Man this song cooks....) hon mention - How Do You Feel (I love singing along with this one. Beautiful beautiful song)
Baxters - best song - enough said... oh Jack....
hon mention- Won't You Try/Saturday Afternoon - Acid, incence, and ballons. Enough said. The ultimate contact high song. Crown of Creation - Airplane meets Zappa. yeah buddy best song - Triad oh my..... hon mention - Jack's bass tone on the title track. Yeah Jamerson got me into the bass, Casady made me love playing it.
Bless It's Pointed Little Head - not the best of Airplane live material. But a great into into what the band was live (see above). Taking the studio tracks.. and turning them inside out and making them live. (See Someone to Love)
best song - Bear Melt - apocalyptic... simply the song of the end.. .awesome... hon mention - oh Jack... The other side of this life.
best song - Eskimo Blue Day - don't mean sh*t to a tree man hon mention - Hey Fredrick
Bark - enter Papa John.. what a addition to the group. best song - and a top 3'r alltime from me. Pretty As You Feel. WOW! Where did that song come from. hon mention - Never Argue with a German If You're Tired or European Song
Long John Silver - agree with Tom... vastly underrated album best song - Milk Train.... yeah Gracie.. ride that Milk Train baby
hon mention - Twilight Double Leader
anyhow.. vote goes to Baxters. An alltime top 20 favorite album of mine. But love all the albums.
The Pedro and Micky Experience - When one no longer requires psychotropics to trip
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Posted: January 21 2017 at 10:06
My top 3 Airplane are:
Crown of creation.... This album is simply their Jeffersonest Baxter's... Definitely their more adventurous, and probably an answer to Sgt Pepper (gatefold, lyric sheet, etc..) Pillow
The best three alumni albums (outside Hot Tuna) Blows Against The Empire (this should've been an Airplane album, for sure Manhole Grace's real masterpiece, and probably the proggiest album of the Jefferson crowd Sunfighter mention to Grace's Dreams as well. Tollbooth follows.
No votes for the latter two albums.....I've been digging on them for a bit, they've been my "go to" for my JA fix lately. Crown is my fave but the last two, though not up to their best, are a horse of a different color.
I like to feel the suspense when you're certain you know I am there.....
Joined: September 03 2005
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Posted: January 27 2017 at 02:15
^ Yeah !! Especially when she sings in Spanish !! Bear Melt - my absolute FAVOURITE track from them. I remember boiling up some Datura's and then listening to Baxter's.........and by flip-side, Watch Her Ride, I'm thinking. "wtf, nothing's happening ". Well, the trumpet flowers I got were not the toxic ones, and I'm probably lucky they weren't, anyway.
Joined: September 03 2005
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Posted: January 27 2017 at 02:40
^ I'm no botanist, but the flowers were big, long white ones (around 15-20cm) and, duh, I boiled the flowers. I think there's supposed to be some pod involved, not the flower.........
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