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Direct Link To This Post Posted: March 28 2013 at 17:34
When's somebody to tell me Kandinsky, Miro or Phillip de Medici aren't prog?
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Direct Link To This Post Posted: March 28 2013 at 17:41
I find Steely Dan to be bland in the extreme but certainly don't consider them 'muzak'

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Direct Link To This Post Posted: March 28 2013 at 18:05
Originally posted by lucas lucas wrote:

One thing is sure, they are not prog. Jazz-pop yes. 
Agree to disagree. I define prog as "more to listen to". Always have. I mainly mean that it terms of complexity, harmony, cohesiveness of the music, even some experimentation of what can be received as harmony. 

"Prog" doesn't mean anything at all. It has its roots in "progressive" from the 70s. But as I mentioned on another thread, I was in on the original capitulation to the people who wanted to listen to simpler, though stranger, music "progressive" because listening to "orchestrated crap from the 70s" wasn't. Later I saw "ProgRock Radio" when streaming started on the internet, and I talked to Jerry, its original creator.

He told me he used to have Steely Dan on his site but the purists complained until he took them off. Same thing was true of the guitar virtuoso Eric Johnson. Johnson was coincidentally his favorite guitarist, he wrote to me "That tears it, Eric Johnson goes back onto my site tonight!" And he said that if he got one more email that suggested the Dan was prog, he was going to put them back on, too.

It's odd how people can listen to quaint pop from Caravan and include them, and want to exclude some of the finest crafted note combinations and incredibly-timed syncopation on vinyl. 

On a personal note, My Old School and Reeling in the Years has passed their date of expiration for me. And I could probably live my life without hearing either Peg, Hey Nineteen, or Time out of Mind. Can't say the same thing about New World Man, or King of the World or Home at Last

But that's what prog is about (to me) mixing it up. Making it interesting. 
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Direct Link To This Post Posted: March 28 2013 at 18:30
I find it hard to care about any of this.Ermm
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Direct Link To This Post Posted: March 28 2013 at 19:08
Ah, this is the link to "IQ": https://itunes.apple.com/us/album/study-this-remixed/id563872405

Love the discription:
Originally posted by ITunes</span><span style=line-height: 1.2; : rgb240, 241, 245;> ITunes wrote:

Formed in the 1980s, IQ is comprised of Martin Orford, Paul Cook, Mike Holmes, Peter Nicholls, and John Jowitt. This prolific band has released 14 albums, beginning with 1983's Tales From the Lush Attic.....
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Direct Link To This Post Posted: April 01 2013 at 14:38
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Direct Link To This Post Posted: April 01 2013 at 14:44
Originally posted by moshkito moshkito wrote:

Originally posted by Snow Dog Snow Dog wrote:

IQ is not urban music is it?
 
Hmmm .. if not is it Rural, now? Wink
 
I always thought that SD would be better served in private, specially when those little pipes people were sucking on, with their band name on them, came around a few years back ... but what the heck! I know a lot of people thought was funny, and a lot of them didn't like it! I laughed way loud and hard because SD was not small!


Edited by moshkito - April 01 2013 at 14:55
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