RYM's Top 25 Indie Rock Albums |
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Xonty
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Topic: RYM's Top 25 Indie Rock Albums Posted: November 22 2014 at 10:36 |
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Saw this poll ages ago, and just stumbled on it again. Neutral Milk Hotel any day.
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Luna
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Posted: August 09 2013 at 00:22 | ||
Down Colorful Hill, pretty easily.
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The.Crimson.King
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Posted: August 09 2013 at 00:19 | ||
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mongofa
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Posted: August 08 2013 at 23:46 | ||
Dooooooooooolittle
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Eria Tarka
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Posted: April 02 2013 at 13:19 | ||
NMH
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kit-kat
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Posted: April 02 2013 at 04:30 | ||
indie has become kind of a useless term, but Funeral >> all
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infocat
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Posted: April 01 2013 at 23:42 | ||
I don't know many of these, but I vote for Turn On The Bright Lights - Interpol.
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Dean
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Posted: April 01 2013 at 19:27 | ||
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What?
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jude111
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Posted: April 01 2013 at 16:46 | ||
Well, I definitely am. My brother says I don't write, I drop bombs. Sorry about that
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DisgruntledPorcupine
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Posted: April 01 2013 at 16:11 | ||
I'm not taking anything personally. I just don't think it's fair to throw a bunch of artists not even in the genre into the mix. Guess I'm just an aggressive debater.
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jude111
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Posted: April 01 2013 at 15:40 | ||
You're taking this personally. The poll's fine, I have no problem with the poll, and it's not a personal attack. I enjoy the poll. (I posted a poll myself recently about albums that were judged in an article to be the most key proto-prog albums of 1967. I posted the poll, but was open to criticism of the choices - I didn't make the choices, after all - and I was even critical myself about it.)
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DisgruntledPorcupine
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Posted: April 01 2013 at 15:34 | ||
I'm confused. What does any of the first paragraph have to do with this poll at all? This is an indie rock poll. You could make a case for MBV sure as they CAN be classified as indie in a sense (and in fact, Loveless is higher rated on that site than any album on this poll and is my favourite album of all time), but the others have nothing to do with anything going on. And sure. That's your opinion. Run as far as you want with it. The poll remains the same.
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jude111
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Posted: April 01 2013 at 15:23 | ||
Again, I respectfully disagree. We're giving it labels now - assigning some bands to the trip-hop genre (even though when they came out, trip-hop didn't exist and wasn't a genre), calling another one ambient house (the Orb) and another acid (FSOL & Primal Scream) and another shoegaze (My Bloody Valentine) and another rave (the Prodigy) and another dream pop (Cocteau Twins) and triphop (Massive Attack) and big beat (Chemical Brothers) and post-rock (Mogwai) and IDM (Aphex Twin & Boards of Canada) even though those genres didn't exist either. And that's kind of my point. British alternative music exploded into various different directions, while their American counterparts all kind of did the same thing. Americans say, "Oh wait, that's not even rock, let alone indie rock." That's a deeply conservative attitude, and typically (mainstream) American. I stand by my thesis: British alternative music is far more varied and quickly to develop than American alternative music, which is much more conservative in comparison and slow to change. (Although I'm asking myself now whether perhaps the Internet's changed things a bit, made our worlds a bit more inter-connected and less place-bound? Edited by jude111 - April 01 2013 at 16:10 |
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DisgruntledPorcupine
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Posted: April 01 2013 at 15:12 | ||
Well, it's not just RYM, lots of what you named isn't even rock, let alone indie rock. Like The Orb, TFSoL, Portishead, Tricky, Massive Attack. I have nothing against your opinion, but please remember what genre we're speaking of here.
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jude111
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Posted: April 01 2013 at 15:07 | ||
I'm not really familiar with Rate Your Music...
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DisgruntledPorcupine
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Posted: April 01 2013 at 15:07 | ||
And there you go, it's barely different. Now let's please stop throwing around accusations of bias because your favourite bands aren't up there. |
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DisgruntledPorcupine
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Posted: April 01 2013 at 15:04 | ||
You do realize not one of these bands fall into the indie rock umbrella (except for a couple Smiths albums and SOME of the Britpop)... Lots of these aren't even ROCK.
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jude111
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Posted: April 01 2013 at 14:55 | ||
LOL
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Padraic
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Posted: April 01 2013 at 14:52 | ||
I too bailed on a PhD program. Ended up having kids and moving to the suburbs.
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jude111
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Posted: April 01 2013 at 14:01 | ||
My theory actually comes from two studies - one on linguistics (which looks at the morphology of spoken English in the US vs. England) and one on geography and political ideology. Linguistics studies show that there's greater variations and ranges of dialects in England in just a few square miles than there are in hundreds of miles in the US; and also, English has evolved much quicker in England, while it's very slow to change in the US. So at the linguistic level, the US is much more conservative. A research question would be: Might a greater phonological range and a faster rate of change & development correlate to a greater range of innovation, stylistic trends and faster developments within popular music? Some political geography studies on the other hand show how place determines politics - basically, if you live in the suburbs you're more likely to be conservative - even if you were formerly a liberal living in the city, that's likely to change when you move. The implication is that the de-urbanization of America has helped contribute to the country's swing to the right. Therefore it stands to reason that urban music is quicker to change and be innovative, while rural music will be more conservative, more resistant to change. (I'm an old-style Marxist: revolution comes from the urban industrial working class, not the suburban shopkeepers or farmers ) My theory is that the implications of these studies might have some implications for music as well. If I had done that PhD I might have developed this theory more... Why didn't I do that PhD? sniff sniff... Edited by jude111 - April 01 2013 at 14:09 |
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