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Vibrationbaby
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Posted: August 12 2013 at 16:01 | |||
Guess you had to know the guy personally.
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Ronnie Pilgrim
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Posted: August 13 2013 at 18:07 | |||
"Which is probably why there are no intelligent people from England.... and so very few from Great Britain" is what I might say if I were to use your flawed logic. "Anyone more clever than from England? (or Great Britain?, or any of the European countries?)" I might add. Seriously, I expect more discretion from an administrator than to lower oneself to such snobbery.
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Dean
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Posted: August 13 2013 at 18:19 | |||
I may not be intelligent and I may lack discretion, but I'm not supercillious. Edited by Dean - August 13 2013 at 18:23 |
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Vibrationbaby
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Posted: August 13 2013 at 19:33 | |||
I don't think there were any progressive rock bands from southern Iran either. I heard of a metal band from Tehran but I think that they were all executed. Seriously. I am not making this up.
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progbethyname
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Posted: August 13 2013 at 20:27 | |||
^ wooooo classic case of religion being flawed as so as man being flawed.
That's terrible. Glad Orphan Land has emerged nicely and is being excepted nicely even in today's Israel. :) |
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The.Crimson.King
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Posted: August 13 2013 at 23:08 | |||
Actually, 3 of them were from the US South. Lift was from New Orleans, Babylon from Florida and I'm pretty sure Easter Island was from Kentucky. As for the others mentioned in the poll, Mirthrandir and Fireballet were from New Jersey, Cathedral from Massachusetts, Netherworld from the SF Bay Area, Pentwater was from Chicago, and I'm pretty sure Starcastle was from Indiana. Don't know about Shadowfax, Yezda Urfa, or others mentioned in the poll comments like Ethos and Happy the Man. Still none from Texas |
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CPicard
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Posted: August 14 2013 at 05:35 | |||
Okay. Go at this site, read the biographies and tell us if there's any reference to a whole band to be executed. http://www.metal-archives.com/lists/IR |
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Dean
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Posted: August 14 2013 at 05:41 | |||
Apparently you can make this stuff up.
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Vibrationbaby
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Posted: August 14 2013 at 08:22 | |||
I'm talking about the days of Ayatollah Khomeini. I'm serious it was in the Montreal Gazette back in the seventies. I am NOT making this up.
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Dean
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Posted: August 14 2013 at 08:36 | |||
Nothing about it on the interwebs and something like that would be. Khomeini banned all western music but there is no mention of executions as a result of that ban. For once I actually trust the interwebs on this.
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Vibrationbaby
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Posted: August 14 2013 at 09:18 | |||
So don't believe me.
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Dean
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Posted: August 14 2013 at 09:29 | |||
I have serious doubts about the veracity of the story - it could be an urban myth, but even that is conspicuous by its absence.
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Vibrationbaby
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Posted: August 14 2013 at 09:35 | |||
I'll try and find the story. Whether or not it's true it appeared in the Montreal Gazette as well as on the local CTV news. I'm not joking.
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CPicard
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Posted: August 14 2013 at 09:37 | |||
If the said musicians (and I stress on the "If") were some political opposants, this story could be somewhat credible. But it would mean that they were executed as enemies to the Islamist revolution, and not for the sole crime of playing Western music.
Yet, without any source to confirm this story, this could be an urban myth - like Dean just said - or even some kind of political propaganda. |
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cstack3
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Posted: August 14 2013 at 17:03 | |||
Nein. Starcastle were from Champaign, Illinois. I knew Starcastle....Starcastle were friends of mine...and you, sir, are no Starcastle! As far as Prog and the American South, numerous big prog artists/acts came out of the southern states in the 1970s....Captain Beyond, Dixie Dregs, and Jaco Pastorius all come to mind immediately. Few guitarists rise to the level of Steve Morse from the Dregs. My late friend Michael Hedges was from Oklahoma, which is the state just north of Texas. The premier American symphonic band, Glass Hammer, hails from Tennessee, which is certainly a Dixie state! I cannot think of any Texas prog bands off the top of my head, but they certainly had them, as Texas was the only place with any money during those years because of their oil wealth. Dallas, Austin and Houston all have very vibrant music scenes, although Texas rock has tended to be very blues-centered. The father of modern jazz electric guitar, Charlie Christian, hailed from Texas. More to follow... |
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presdoug
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Posted: August 14 2013 at 17:18 | |||
Bloodrock, hailing from Ft. Worth, Texas, came pretty close to prog with their 1972 albums Bloodrock USA and Passage.
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Dean
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Posted: August 14 2013 at 17:32 | |||
I'm not questioning the musical heritage of Texas. (Just look to Janice or SRV for that - or the modern legacy that is SXSW). Nor am I saying that no Prog artists hailed from there or any of the Southern states - even if you could list 10 or 20 there would be far far more that were not Prog - for every Starcastle you'd find 100s of other bands that were not inspired by Prog at all. The popularity of any genre can be gauged not just by who buys the albums, but also by the live music scene it supports, ie local Prog bands that sprout up in the area.
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timothy leary
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Posted: August 14 2013 at 17:58 | |||
There actually is a Texas progressive rock band from the 70's and they are on this site. Hands self titled album 1977.
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Dean
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Posted: August 14 2013 at 18:26 | |||
Okay, that's close enough I guess.
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geneyesontle
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Posted: August 14 2013 at 21:10 | |||
Yes, Emerson Lake & Palmer, Jethro Tull and Pink Floyd were very popular. Genesis were beginning to be popular and King Crimson were always an underground band. That's for the big 6 of prog. Now, for bands like Gentle Giant, Van Der Graaf Generator and Camel, this was more difficult. They are cult bands.
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