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    Posted: May 15 2014 at 07:19
Originally posted by jude111

Originally posted by Dean

Originally posted by jude111

Originally posted by dr wu23

After a month and a half it's 22 to 12 that he's not prog.
 
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And as we know, the minority's usually right LOL
Eh?


Okay, it's not enough to say the minority's usually right. (Clearly that's not the case.) Rather, I'll just say the majority's usually, for want of a better word, 'wrong'. Or, 'off'.

Or to quote Mark Twain: "Whenever you find yourself on the side of the majority, it is time to pause and reflect." LOL

Yes  - So i sad down, paused, refelcted, and came up with this thoughtful answer.....NO
Because, if you have a page like this one, you are protecting a minority in music, if you include everything from the 70's, everything slightly fussioned between two or more genres, everyone that has a few tracks of prog, every band or album with someone famous in the prog circles, you will turn PA into a meltingpot, and it will be no more about this small minority in music that is truely prog....so pause..reflect...and tell me, is David Bowie, an ever changing master of Rock, born from Glam Rock years in the early 70's, or is he a full blown representative of 70's prog rock.

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in glimps : Yes
in general : No
As allmost every other artists born from the 70's scene, they was inspired by prog because at the time prog was huge. If you would ask Bowie "do you consider yourself as part of the progressive rock movement", im sure he would laugh himself to death.
 
He fits perfect in prog related.
 
 
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Ground control to Major Tom.....I say negative to Poll question.....but i'm generally on hydrocodone when i post.....
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Post Options Post Options   Quote TODDLER Quote  Post ReplyReply Direct Link To This Post Posted: May 13 2014 at 08:57
He was very progressive in his theatrical stage act. That being a desperate craft he strongly developed to be combined with his compositions. I saw him in "The Hunger" and it made me think about the many roles he took on during live performances.. Originally influenced by Syd Barrett' s music , his hair style. the makeup, expanded Bowie' s mind into doing unorthodox things. I can't imagine the suggestions that Bowie and Visconti made to each other during those early , so praised recording sessions. Apart from  Bowie talents, we had Mick Ronson who was a fine and perfectly skilled arranger. Arranging the strings for "Life On Mars" as such proved that his work could easily be compared to the string/horn arrangements of Procol Harums Grand Hotel. Think about it. All those progressive or now defined Proto ..elements existed in Bowie' s music. In 71' he performed at Glastonbury Fayre . ...alone with an acoustic. He was a fine singer songwriter and if you dismiss his harder Rock songs from the early albums and focus mainly on his melancholy pieces, it is evident that he was influenced by a more progressive English writing style which was basically his environment.
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Bowie is not a prog musician, but his albums are strictly progressive. IMO
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O.K. - stands to reason.......
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Post Options Post Options   Quote ExittheLemming Quote  Post ReplyReply Direct Link To This Post Posted: July 13 2013 at 00:21
Originally posted by Tom Ozric

Originally posted by Dean

Originally posted by Svetonio

^^ Ok, that was pretty enough for PA admins to add him as prog related act as well, but it doesn't mean that this fashionable pop artist was produced progressive rock enough for Crossover section. You would never forget what Dean pointed out:
Prog RELATED IS NOT PROG.
Your grasp of this concept appears to be limited and/or somewhat selective.
The question needs to be asked :  whilst I am pleased to have many of these 'Prog Related' entries here at P.A. I wonder why they are included here at all if they are 'NOT PROG' ???  If they cross over into Prog territories occasionally then they should be in 'Cross Over'.........
Let's start up the 'Prog Related Archives' and include 'Buggles'............(whom I find more related to Prog than many 'Prog Related' artists........Confused)


They're here because they are:

Influential to or have been influenced by Progressive Rock
Considered to have facilitated the development of Progressive Rock in their locale
Considered to reflect some/many of the stylistic elements and the erstwhile zeitgeist from which Progressive Rock emerged.

These are of course very broad parameters as this isn't an exact science but it's all there in the published definition on PA which I think ain't bad. No-one pretends that any of the artists in Prog Related are Prog. They're not. They're related to Prog.

By way of contrast Crossover Prog artists are deemed 100% Prog but their music contains elements we would ordinarily expect to find in more mainstream pop/rock idioms e.g. shorter more concise song structures, classical, jazz and folk affectations, a greater focus on repeated melodic hooks etc. They don't crossover into Prog, they crossover from Prog. Similarly, a very useful definition is provided on PA which should be of particular value to Prog Reviewers.





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Post Options Post Options   Quote Tom Ozric Quote  Post ReplyReply Direct Link To This Post Posted: July 12 2013 at 23:04
Originally posted by Dean

Originally posted by Svetonio

^^ Ok, that was pretty enough for PA admins to add him as prog related act as well, but it doesn't mean that this fashionable pop artist was produced progressive rock enough for Crossover section. You would never forget what Dean pointed out:
Prog RELATED IS NOT PROG.
Your grasp of this concept appears to be limited and/or somewhat selective.
The question needs to be asked :  whilst I am pleased to have many of these 'Prog Related' entries here at P.A. I wonder why they are included here at all if they are 'NOT PROG' ???  If they cross over into Prog territories occasionally then they should be in 'Cross Over'.........
Let's start up the 'Prog Related Archives' and include 'Buggles'............(whom I find more related to Prog than many 'Prog Related' artists........Confused)
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Post Options Post Options   Quote dr wu23 Quote  Post ReplyReply Direct Link To This Post Posted: July 06 2013 at 22:39
Originally posted by Gerinski

I couldn't care less whether he is Prog or not, I just wish there were more Bowie's on this planet.
 
Meh.....never was a big fan of Bowie......now there's an artist who fits into that thread on overrated songs/musicians..
 
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Post Options Post Options   Quote dr wu23 Quote  Post ReplyReply Direct Link To This Post Posted: July 06 2013 at 22:37
Originally posted by jude111

Originally posted by dr wu23

After a month and a half it's 22 to 12 that he's not prog.
 
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And as we know, the minority's usually right LOL
What planet are you living on...?
 
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Post Options Post Options   Quote jude111 Quote  Post ReplyReply Direct Link To This Post Posted: July 06 2013 at 20:48
Originally posted by Dean

Originally posted by jude111

Originally posted by dr wu23

After a month and a half it's 22 to 12 that he's not prog.
 
Wink


And as we know, the minority's usually right LOL
Eh?


Okay, it's not enough to say the minority's usually right. (Clearly that's not the case.) Rather, I'll just say the majority's usually, for want of a better word, 'wrong'. Or, 'off'.

Or to quote Mark Twain: "Whenever you find yourself on the side of the majority, it is time to pause and reflect." LOL

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I couldn't care less whether he is Prog or not, I just wish there were more Bowie's on this planet.
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Post Options Post Options   Quote Dean Quote  Post ReplyReply Direct Link To This Post Posted: July 06 2013 at 20:38
Originally posted by jude111

Originally posted by dr wu23

After a month and a half it's 22 to 12 that he's not prog.
 
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And as we know, the minority's usually right LOL
Eh?


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Post Options Post Options   Quote jude111 Quote  Post ReplyReply Direct Link To This Post Posted: July 06 2013 at 20:09
Originally posted by dr wu23

After a month and a half it's 22 to 12 that he's not prog.
 
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And as we know, the minority's usually right LOL
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Post Options Post Options   Quote dr wu23 Quote  Post ReplyReply Direct Link To This Post Posted: July 06 2013 at 19:39
After a month and a half it's 22 to 12 that he's not prog.
 
Wink
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Post Options Post Options   Quote stegor Quote  Post ReplyReply Direct Link To This Post Posted: July 03 2013 at 22:29
^ That version bears more resemblance to The Cygnet Committee or The Wild Eyed Boy From Freecloud than any of his '80's stuff. Very nice.
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Post Options Post Options   Quote Dean Quote  Post ReplyReply Direct Link To This Post Posted: July 03 2013 at 17:10

cue a cracking version of what I considered to be a so-so 80s bowie single

 


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What you really have to ask yourself is : Is David Bowie an alien spy?
                
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Post Options Post Options   Quote ole-the-first Quote  Post ReplyReply Direct Link To This Post Posted: July 02 2013 at 11:59
Originally posted by someone_else

I'd say No in general, Yes occasionally. Yet most of his work can be called Art Rock.

The most plausible opinion in the whle thread.
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Post Options Post Options   Quote lucas Quote  Post ReplyReply Direct Link To This Post Posted: July 01 2013 at 16:23
Just like many prog rock artists he has prog albums, and others non prog. I like his versatility, which is a sign of open-mindedness and tolerance.
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