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FLAC
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Topic: Atmospheric CO2 Hits High Milestone Posted: May 11 2013 at 14:11 |
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dioxide surpassed a notable milestone this week.
They reached a daily average above 400 parts per million, reported NOAA, The milestone, hit on May 9, may be symbolic, notes Climate Central, but manmade CO2 emissions from the burning of fossil fuels continue to rise, bringing greater atmospheric warming and exacerbating the effects of climate change. Scientists argue we've Research also shows that continued emissions of long-lived greenhouse gases like carbon dioxide will mean Some links from Green Peace: |
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The Doctor
Special Collaborator Honorary Collaborator Joined: June 23 2005 Location: The Tardis Status: Offline Points: 8543 |
Posted: May 11 2013 at 14:24 | ||
While I strongly support environmental issues, there is also one problem which is not so easy to deal with. And that is the fact that this planet was not meant to support 7+ billion humans on it. And that number keeps growing at a geometric rate. Overpopulation of the planet is the biggest environmental disaster and while there may not be much we can do about it, it won't be too long I fear before mother nature does something about it with environmental disasters, plague, famine and so forth to bring the human population back into balance with nature.
I'm reminded of the early Floyd lyric "And if you survive to 2005, I hope you're exceedingly thin, for if you are stout, you will have to breathe out, while the people around you breathe in". Edited by The Doctor - May 11 2013 at 14:26 |
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I can understand your anger at me, but what did the horse I rode in on ever do to you?
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Gamemako
Forum Senior Member Joined: March 31 2006 Location: United States Status: Offline Points: 1184 |
Posted: May 11 2013 at 14:31 | ||
You need to re-think that statement. There are a lot more than 7 billion organisms on Earth. It's what people do that causes issues. |
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Hail Eris!
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The Doctor
Special Collaborator Honorary Collaborator Joined: June 23 2005 Location: The Tardis Status: Offline Points: 8543 |
Posted: May 11 2013 at 14:35 | ||
You mean like breathing? I'm not discounting the factories, cars, etc, but breathing alone pumps a lot of greenhouse gases into the atmosphere. Not to mention that we use up resources faster than the rest of the organisms on the planet combined. The planet may be able to support trillions of organisms, but not 7+ billion people. I stand by my original statement. |
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I can understand your anger at me, but what did the horse I rode in on ever do to you?
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The T
Special Collaborator Honorary Collaborator Joined: October 16 2006 Location: FL, USA Status: Offline Points: 17493 |
Posted: May 11 2013 at 14:41 | ||
I agree with The Doc that his statement is correct. The planet can support billions of billions of living organisms but not of humans all of who bevave quite parasitically.
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aapatsos
Special Collaborator Honorary Collaborator Joined: November 11 2005 Location: Manchester, UK Status: Offline Points: 9226 |
Posted: May 11 2013 at 14:45 | ||
^ amen, totally agree, this and our affluent way of life
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Dean
Special Collaborator Retired Admin and Amateur Layabout Joined: May 13 2007 Location: Europe Status: Offline Points: 37575 |
Posted: May 11 2013 at 14:57 | ||
I blame the plants.
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What?
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The T
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Posted: May 11 2013 at 15:17 | ||
^They are already being executed as we speak.
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Gamemako
Forum Senior Member Joined: March 31 2006 Location: United States Status: Offline Points: 1184 |
Posted: May 11 2013 at 15:32 | ||
Total nonsense. You can only produce as much CO2 as carbon in the food you eat. For you to exhale CO2, CO2 must have already been removed from the air.
It is our use of natural resources that is the difference. The planet can support plenty of people, it just can't support us. |
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Hail Eris!
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FLAC
Forum Groupie Joined: May 06 2013 Location: Alps Status: Offline Points: 40 |
Posted: May 11 2013 at 15:34 | ||
I agree but what can we do? Should we start adopting Friedrich Nietzsche's ideas.
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Gamemako
Forum Senior Member Joined: March 31 2006 Location: United States Status: Offline Points: 1184 |
Posted: May 11 2013 at 15:38 | ||
It's Malthus Time. |
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FLAC
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Posted: May 11 2013 at 15:45 | ||
yea but that so called "philosophy" worked in the middle ages,where everyone died off plague,and they needed to have as much kids as possible (god's will) but still religion is to blame (mostly) because if it wasn't for that primitive fairy tails women would be free to get abortions use pills to prevent pregnancy and man could use plastic bags for their ding dong. This would decrees the numbers a bit if everyone used it
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Gamemako
Forum Senior Member Joined: March 31 2006 Location: United States Status: Offline Points: 1184 |
Posted: May 11 2013 at 15:51 | ||
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Hail Eris!
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Padraic
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Posted: May 11 2013 at 15:51 | ||
This is happening. Reproduction in most of the developed world is not meeting the replacement rate. |
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Padraic
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Posted: May 11 2013 at 15:55 | ||
How many humans was it meant to support? I'm not sure what that means, anyway - it sounds like the earth was designed and somehow we've exceeded specifications. If your number is quite a bit smaller, and you think that is truly the solution, how do you solve this problem without resorting to rather drastic measures? |
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FLAC
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Posted: May 11 2013 at 16:05 | ||
i know it was an joke. I just like to replay to posts don't know why Well yea third worlds that is the biggest problem,keeping an controlled population maybe all the third worlds should follow China? Like one child per family?
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Gamemako
Forum Senior Member Joined: March 31 2006 Location: United States Status: Offline Points: 1184 |
Posted: May 11 2013 at 18:33 | ||
I'm not sure you understand the joke or why it applies to this... All developing countries, comprising 80% of the world population, produce as much CO2 in total as high-income OECD countries, which comprise 15% of the world's population. It's not them, it's us. Edited by Gamemako - May 11 2013 at 18:34 |
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Hail Eris!
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Dean
Special Collaborator Retired Admin and Amateur Layabout Joined: May 13 2007 Location: Europe Status: Offline Points: 37575 |
Posted: May 11 2013 at 18:50 | ||
What the hell are the other 5% doing?
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Gamemako
Forum Senior Member Joined: March 31 2006 Location: United States Status: Offline Points: 1184 |
Posted: May 11 2013 at 18:59 | ||
The other 6.861% of the population has the remaining 15.671% of the CO2 share, obviously. |
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Hail Eris!
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Equality 7-2521
Forum Senior Member Joined: August 11 2005 Location: Philly Status: Offline Points: 15783 |
Posted: May 11 2013 at 21:03 | ||
Sure it can. It's just not quite made to be assaulted by human. |
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