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Poll Question: Who do you like better all around, group work and solo?
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Direct Link To This Post Posted: June 14 2013 at 20:11
Originally posted by brainstormer brainstormer wrote:

He's done a cooking show, stand up comedy, was part of a team called Grumpy Old Men,

This doesn't surprise me...anyone who can eat Chinese takeout while performing "Tales From Topographic Oceans" has a bright future in stand up comedy LOL
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Direct Link To This Post Posted: June 15 2013 at 10:42
Rick's also on the BBC programme Watchdog which is a consumer affairs show. He doesn't present it though just does the occasional outside report. He also had his own show on Planet Rock radio but that finished about a year or so ago.
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Direct Link To This Post Posted: June 15 2013 at 12:24
Originally posted by Dellinger Dellinger wrote:

Originally posted by chopper chopper wrote:


Originally posted by NickHall NickHall wrote:

Wakeman way ahead of Banks in technical ability.

I've read that Genesis used to skip the piano intro of "Firth of Fifth" because Banks couldn't play it live. I don't know whether this is true or not, although I doubt it as the keyboard player from tribute band Los Endos has no trouble playing it.
Wakeman is technically better but doesn't always pick the best keyboard sounds.
I'm going to go for Wakeman for the glorious church organ section of "Close To The Edge" and the instrumental section of "And You And I".


I had read something similar about the intro to Firth of Fifth... but I think it had more to do with him not being able to find the right sound on his keyboards in order to play that, though I'm not really sure.
I have read that originally he played the intro but it was eventually dropped (although I have not heard any live version with it). I believe that he could play it, he has some other technically difficult passages in their usual repertoire and he never seems to be sloppy, I guess it was more a matter of time-saving or because he did not like the sound of it on electric piano (although this argument was only valid in the 70's / 80's until good synths / samplers started to produce decent grand piano emulations).

"Banks would not take his entire rig with him on tour, but did take most of it. Taking a grand piano on tour was not practical, so those parts on the albums were played on the electric piano. (Before it was dropped, for example, the "Firth of Fifth" intro was played on the electric piano.)"


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Direct Link To This Post Posted: June 15 2013 at 12:38
I'l go for the best of both worlds, Rick Banksman LOL


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Direct Link To This Post Posted: June 15 2013 at 19:17
Originally posted by Gerinski Gerinski wrote:

I'l go for the best of both worlds, Rick Banksman LOL



A fascinating thought...Tony Banks compositional mind with Rick Wakeman's dexterity.
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Direct Link To This Post Posted: June 15 2013 at 19:44
Hey. This could work. ^

Rick banksman.
Raving and drooling I leaned on his neck with a screeeeeeeamm! ;)
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Direct Link To This Post Posted: June 16 2013 at 05:49
Originally posted by The.Crimson.King The.Crimson.King wrote:

Originally posted by Gerinski Gerinski wrote:

I'l go for the best of both worlds, Rick Banksman LOL



A fascinating thought...Tony Banks compositional mind with Rick Wakeman's dexterity.

as long as its that way round

reminds me of Tony Curtis explaining that he was glad that his daughter Jamie - Lee had inherited his brains and his mothers looksTongue
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Direct Link To This Post Posted: July 10 2013 at 18:22
Hands down it's Wakeman. While Banks has made extraordinary contributions to great pieces of work, he's lazy. Never pushed boundaries nor exposed us to more than being a keyboard player in a band. Quite a disappointment.  
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Direct Link To This Post Posted: July 10 2013 at 18:29
I didn't vote (I'm completely torn here), but I am both amazed and encouraged to see that, as of this writing, they are tied. They (and, of course, Emerson) were both so critical to the success of progressive music.

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Direct Link To This Post Posted: July 10 2013 at 21:41
Are we doing these polls annually or what?
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Direct Link To This Post Posted: July 17 2013 at 06:06
^^ ha, yeah. I've seen this poll more than a few times. i still seem to be voting though...
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Direct Link To This Post Posted: July 17 2013 at 06:41
Originally posted by Trane Trane wrote:

Hands down it's Wakeman. While Banks has made extraordinary contributions to great pieces of work, he's lazy. Never pushed boundaries nor exposed us to more than being a keyboard player in a band. Quite a disappointment.  
 
You do know he's also writing for orchestras and stuff right? Not that I've heard those albums, but they do exist, he is most certainly more than a keyboard player in a band :D
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Direct Link To This Post Posted: October 21 2013 at 10:41
Both Rick Wakeman and Tony Banks are superb for the work they did with Yes and Genesis, but I'd give the slight edge to Rick Wakeman, because I like his solo work more than Tony Banks'.
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Direct Link To This Post Posted: April 03 2014 at 10:07
Rick Wakeman is too much "baroque" for me and archaic on some level. And (dont kill me) - boring.
Tony always has a imaginative structure of harmony and beautiful melodies. I vote for Tony!
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Direct Link To This Post Posted: April 03 2014 at 10:40
Originally posted by brainstormer brainstormer wrote:

I find Banks interesting and able to create some beautiful melodies but his music doesn't have the power for me of Wakeman's.   Esp Six Wives and Criminal Record, and Rick's contributions to Yes are pretty much all his own, I'm sure.   I find many other treasures also in Wakeman's solo output.   Not sure how much of the piano writing itself of Morning Has Broken was original from Rick, but that's a pretty major achievement, as well.  

 
Morning Has Broken - What a beautiful song!
And Rick has really superb songs and albums, he is also a great composer. I can't vote because i don't know yet Banks solo works.


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Direct Link To This Post Posted: April 03 2014 at 11:18
A month ago I would've said Wakeman, but I can't argue with The Cinema Show He's the most melodious keyboardist I know of; each solo (at least with Genesis) is so unique to the respective song it always fits perfectly, especially The Colony of Slippermen.
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Direct Link To This Post Posted: April 03 2014 at 11:58
Soloist: Rick Wakeman
Band member: Tony Banks

Composer: Rick Wakeman
Performer: Both in their styles
            
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Direct Link To This Post Posted: April 03 2014 at 12:03
Tony is the best all round prog keyboardist---he has no cheesy sounds , as a matter of fact he heas the best synth sounds in the business---and his playing is sublime---either as lead or as carrying the whole song.
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Direct Link To This Post Posted: April 03 2014 at 13:38
Originally posted by brainstormer brainstormer wrote:


Rick Wakeman is a big celebrity in the UK for non-musical things..  That's a pretty unique position among proggers. <span style="line-height: 1.2;">Can you think of any others?   I wonder in the non-English European countries....I think maybe </span><span style="line-height: 1.2;">someone in France is also like that that was also from prog. </span>
We often forget Phil 'Buster' Collins - to see him playing the part of a train robber, and knowing the incredible drumming he's contributed to countless albums and artists is plain amusing. Rick is master comedian though. An eccentric genius !!!
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Direct Link To This Post Posted: April 03 2014 at 16:54
Is this a put-on? I'm not a huge fan of Rick Wakeman, but he is, at the very least, one of the outstanding keyboard players of the Rock era, whereas Tony Banks is a fine sideman, a good pro. Not a fair or sensible comparison. 
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