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Many lengthy 'classics' of the 70s aren't especially better than the other works of the same bands. But they're so often hailed as being all-time top ten material by fans. How much of that worship is merely due to extra minutes? Supper's Ready isn't vastly better than Watcher Of The Skies, it's just longer (which gives it more time to show off, I suppose). Close To The Edge isn't vastly better than Siberian Khatru, it's just longer. And so froth.
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Posted: June 01 2013 at 06:17
Stool Man wrote:
Many lengthy 'classics' of the 70s aren't especially better than the other works of the same bands. But they're so often hailed as being all-time top ten material by fans. How much of that worship is merely due to extra minutes? Supper's Ready isn't vastly better than Watcher Of The Skies, it's just longer (which gives it more time to show off, I suppose). Close To The Edge isn't vastly better than Siberian Khatru, it's just longer. And so froth.
Oh I disagree. Supper's Reay is far better that Watcher and CTTE is miles better tha Khatru.
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Posted: June 01 2013 at 06:58
Stool Man wrote:
Many lengthy 'classics' of the 70s aren't especially better than the other works of the same bands. But they're so often hailed as being all-time top ten material by fans. How much of that worship is merely due to extra minutes? Supper's Ready isn't vastly better than Watcher Of The Skies, it's just longer (which gives it more time to show off, I suppose). Close To The Edge isn't vastly better than Siberian Khatru, it's just longer. And so froth.
Really? You think Siberian Khatru (the song where the refrain is repeated over 30 times) is as good as Close to the Edge?
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Posted: June 01 2013 at 08:32
I suspect most Yes fans are fond of Awaken from Going For the One and Wakeman says it's his favorite but I always thought it was just ok compared to their earlier classic material.
I also think ELP's Karn Evil 9 is overrated ...to me the lyrics and music are a bit 'cheesy' at times.
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I'm gonna have too much fun with this...
Floyd (with or without Syd), except for the second half of The Wall
The whole Trilogy album by ELP
Tom Sawyer by Rush
The CTTE and Fragile albums by Yes
The Battle of Epping Forest by Genesis
The Court of the Crimson King album by KC
Everything ever by Jethro Tull minus A Passion Play
Basically any older group's stuff I have a hard time understanding why they get the praise they do. Maybe it's over-romanticizing prog "glory days" or something. And You And I will always and forever be a bland song to me, but some people seem to go crazy over it. There's really nothing all that great about it, at least in my opinion. No emotion comes across to me, and it's not particularly musically interesting.
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Posted: June 01 2013 at 12:05
^ TBoEF is not all that highly regarded, from what I can tell.
I agree with "Supper's Ready". It is a good song, no doubt, but I've always found it to be a bit too "slice and dice" (seemingly unrelated songs spliced together).
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Posted: June 01 2013 at 16:06
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^ TBoEF is not all that highly regarded, from what I can tell.
I never thought so either til recently. I think I just got it in my head that it was after seeing people regard it as an essential track on SEBTP as opposed to I Know What I Like or More Fool Me, when I always thought of it on par with those lesser tracks, just longer and more varied.
I had the same reaction when I saw an earlier post about VDGG's Arrow being overrated, as I never perceived it to be that hyped. But then I always thought of it as wildly underrated (it's one of my absolute favorite songs). Won't argue with subjectivity of course.
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Posted: June 01 2013 at 16:22
I won't be making any friends here, but IMHO's...
1) Everything by the Annie Haslam fronted Renaissance (except "Can You Understand?")
2) The 1st 2 sickening-sappy Genesis love songs "Your Own Special Way" and "Follow You Follow Me"
3) "Onward" by Yes (another awful sappy prog love song)
4) "Pirates" and "Fanfare for the Common Man" (I'd feel differently if Keith had used his trusty Hammond-Moog combo instead of that horrible Yamaha GX1)
5) "I Know What I Like (In Your Wardrobe)" and "More Fool Me" (2 big wastes of time on SEbtP)
6) "The World's My Oyster Soup Kitchen Floor Wax Museum" and "Elephant Talk" (Adrian Belew trying way too hard to be lyrically weird but coming off like a 2nd rate David Byrne)
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I won't be making any friends here, but IMHO's...
5) "I Know What I Like (In Your Wardrobe)" and "More Fool Me" (2 big wastes of time on SEbtP)
6) "The World's My Oyster Soup Kitchen Floor Wax Museum" and "Elephant Talk" (Adrian Belew trying way too hard to be lyrically weird but coming off like a 2nd rate David Byrne)
These two statements alone actually made you a friend here
Never cared for Adrian Belew in the slightest myself.
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