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Posted: June 10 2013 at 17:02
^ In my opinion both post-Morrison albums sound like some other band.
Ray Manzarek called the Doors' collaboration "the diamond within the circle. The diamond that was Jim Morrison, Ray Manzarek, Robby Krieger and John Densmore". Without Jim magic's gone.
Surviving Doors recorded some good music separately (I love Robby's 2010 "Singularity" album or Ray's "Carmina Burana"), but the time with Jim was their finest hour.
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Posted: June 10 2013 at 17:09
I might check out the other three Doors albums made after Jim's death, but not soon; not interested right now. Either way, I certainly can't call that the Doors. It's like the Beatles: (even though there were different members in the beginning,) The Doors were Jim, Ray, Rob, and John, no question about it.
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Posted: June 11 2013 at 01:00
I couldn't agree more that The Doors are the four of them, yes, but there were times when Jim was too far gone to get up on stage so the other 3 persisted with the gig anyway. Light My Fire with Ray singing would've been cool.
There's just something about Full Circle and (especially) Other Voices that I find really captivating. Think if 'Four Billion Souls' was sung by Jim - there'd be yet another classic right there (IMO, of course). I suppose that the main reason I love Doors music is because of Ray's keyboards, a shining trait carried on right through to the end. I can't see Jim singing lyrics like 'A bird sings outside my piano', even though 'The Piano Bird' is a very pretty tune.
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Posted: June 11 2013 at 06:40
Tom Ozric wrote:
but there were times when Jim was too far gone to get up on stage so the other 3 persisted with the gig anyway. Light My Fire with Ray singing would've been cool.
Actually it happened only once when the Doors played without Jim (who was in a hospital) and Ray sung most vocals with the help of Robby - on September 15, 1968 at Concertgebouw, Amsterdam, The Netherlands.
Poor quality record circulates on bootlegs, it's not too hard to find on the web.
Perhaps I should give one more listen to post-Morrison albums and try to imagine how they could sound with Jim. Thanks for the idea.
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Posted: June 11 2013 at 06:48
NotAProghead wrote:
Tom Ozric wrote:
but there were times when Jim was too far gone to get up on stage so the other 3 persisted with the gig anyway. Light My Fire with Ray singing would've been cool.
Actually it happened only once when the Doors played without Jim (who was in a hospital) and Ray sung most vocals with the help of Robby - on September 15, 1968 at Concertgebouw, Amsterdam, The Netherlands.
Poor quality record circulates on bootlegs, it's not too hard to find on the web.
Perhaps I should give one more listen to post-Morrison albums and try to imagine how they could sound with Jim. Thanks for the idea.
I could always picture Jim at the mic for 'Down On The Farm' for some reason - maybe on the chorus ?? Man, you're a wealth of knowledge regarding The Doors. 'Tightrope Ride' could've be good with Jim, too. Maybe the songs were there, the playing was there, but this 'magic' Jim brought to the band just wasn't. I still don't think that those 2 non-Jim albums deserve the stick that they receive.
Really fantastic band. Recently listened to each one a couple of times. Love them all. (I know, a lot of 4.5s)
1.The Doors (5/5) 2.Waiting for the Sun (4.5/5) 3.Morrison Hotel (4.5/5) 4.Strange Days (4.5/5) 5.L.A. Woman (4.5/5) 6.The Soft Parade (4.5/5) 7.In Concert (4.5/5)
I have admitted to this before, but here goes again. I'm one of the few who rates all those with 5 stars
I am a shamelessly huge fanboy, which also is why I don't review em.
I've been listening to The Doors for the past 20 years, and I know all the songs by heart. I used to sing the tunes, when I stumbled home from great big nights on the town with whiskey and beer and women.
If you haven't yet checked out the 97 boxset, then I urge you to do so Andrew. Loads of alternative stuff - live rarities including both the most beautiful version of The Crystal Ship with church organ as well as the infamous Miami "incident", where Jim got arrested. He flips out like a mad drunk Indian.
Edited by Guldbamsen - June 11 2013 at 06:59
“The Guide says there is an art to flying or rather a knack. The knack lies in learning how to throw yourself at the ground and miss.”
^ Yep it's a goodie but with a rather large caveat
1. The Doors 2. Morrison Hotel 3. LA Woman 4. Strange Days 5. An American Prayer (great music but Morrison was a 3rd rate poet at best) 5. The Soft Parade 6. Waiting for the Sun 7. Absolutely Live
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Posted: March 29 2015 at 06:35
besides The Soft Parade and L.A. Woman, i haven't heard a Doors studio album in its entirety; so, from what i can muster, the best ones of course are from what i've heard
1. The Doors (i practically own the whole album on separate discs save for a couple)
2. L.A. Woman (starting to get the popularity it has)
3. The Soft Parade (not as bad as some people say it is)
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