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^ sorry did not mean to derail the thread.
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Originally posted by timothy leary timothy leary wrote:

^ sorry did not mean to derail the thread.
 
I don't think you derailed anything.......the thread bounces, after everyone gets their licks in,  from one well known/well liked  lp to the next.
 
 
I'm too lazy to read thru the last 10 pages to see if it  was mentioned , but I was going to ask what's so special about Yes-TFTO.
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Originally posted by Polymorphia Polymorphia wrote:

Originally posted by dr wu23 dr wu23 wrote:

Originally posted by Horizons Horizons wrote:

His solo stuff is better than a lot of PT output.

But I think we're supposed to discuss BSS
BSS and ELP have been discussed to death on the forum......but then I suppose the same can be aid about Wilson and PT.
 
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Right now, Keith Emerson is grasping his chest, his doctor fuming about those effing prog fans discussing his client to death.
Well...his client should have died before releasing Love Beach.
 
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I think ELP released Love Beach for their own health.
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Post Options Post Options   Thanks (0) Thanks(0)   Quote dr wu23 Quote  Post ReplyReply Direct Link To This Post Posted: September 26 2013 at 16:22
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Originally posted by dr wu23 dr wu23 wrote:

Originally posted by Polymorphia Polymorphia wrote:

Originally posted by dr wu23 dr wu23 wrote:

Originally posted by Horizons Horizons wrote:

His solo stuff is better than a lot of PT output.

But I think we're supposed to discuss BSS
BSS and ELP have been discussed to death on the forum......but then I suppose the same can be aid about Wilson and PT.
 
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Right now, Keith Emerson is grasping his chest, his doctor fuming about those effing prog fans discussing his client to death.
Well...his client should have died before releasing Love Beach.
 
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I think ELP released Love Beach for their own health.
And that would be their financial health.
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Originally posted by dr wu23 dr wu23 wrote:

Originally posted by Polymorphia Polymorphia wrote:

Originally posted by dr wu23 dr wu23 wrote:

Originally posted by Polymorphia Polymorphia wrote:

Originally posted by dr wu23 dr wu23 wrote:

Originally posted by Horizons Horizons wrote:

His solo stuff is better than a lot of PT output.

But I think we're supposed to discuss BSS
BSS and ELP have been discussed to death on the forum......but then I suppose the same can be aid about Wilson and PT.
 
Wink

Right now, Keith Emerson is grasping his chest, his doctor fuming about those effing prog fans discussing his client to death.
Well...his client should have died before releasing Love Beach.
 
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I think ELP released Love Beach for their own health.
And that would be their financial health.
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Originally posted by dr wu23 dr wu23 wrote:

Originally posted by timothy leary timothy leary wrote:

^ sorry did not mean to derail the thread.
 
I don't think you derailed anything.......the thread bounces, after everyone gets their licks in,  from one well known/well liked  lp to the next.
 
 
I'm too lazy to read thru the last 10 pages to see if it  was mentioned , but I was going to ask what's so special about Yes-TFTO.
Embarrassed
 
 
We'll get to that eventually - possibly after Relayer or Fragile?
I've just updated the first post on page 1 with a list of which albums have been discussed.  It'll come in very useful if this becomes an extremely lengthy topic.

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Originally posted by Stool Man Stool Man wrote:

Originally posted by dr wu23 dr wu23 wrote:

Originally posted by timothy leary timothy leary wrote:

^ sorry did not mean to derail the thread.
 
I don't think you derailed anything.......the thread bounces, after everyone gets their licks in,  from one well known/well liked  lp to the next.
 
 
I'm too lazy to read thru the last 10 pages to see if it  was mentioned , but I was going to ask what's so special about Yes-TFTO.
Embarrassed
 
 
We'll get to that eventually - possibly after Relayer or Fragile?
I've just updated the first post on page 1 with a list of which albums have been discussed.  It'll come in very useful if this becomes an extremely lengthy topic.
Ok then.....thanks for that.
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what's so special about Godbluff?
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Dude, I'm always jumping at the chance to be as obnoxious as possible in heaping praise upon this critical achievement in music history! I love this album so much.

Fanboy outburst aside, it's one of the most emotional, intriguing, and texturally rich albums I've ever heard. It's the pinnacle example of an album in which the whole is greater than the sum of its parts, but each part alone is already a masterpiece in its own right. The playing is both technically stunning and emotionally inspired. The lyrics are smart, thought-provoking, and even heart-wrenching at times with their imagery. The music compliments them so well too. Even the sounds of the instruments themselves do wonders to enhance the listening experience. There is not a single flaw or low point on the entire album.

In short, it's a dark, abrasive listen, but one that sports the best balance of evolution and diversity in any album I've ever heard. It's a monumental offering from my personal favorite prog group. Red may still be my favorite album, but Godbluff is still perfect too and a ridiculously close second.

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Originally posted by Neo-Romantic Neo-Romantic wrote:

Dude, I'm always jumping at the chance to be as obnoxious as possible in heaping praise upon this critical achievement in music history! I love this album so much.

Fanboy outburst aside, it's one of the most emotional, intriguing, and texturally rich albums I've ever heard. It's the pinnacle example of an album in which the whole is greater than the sum of its parts, but each part alone is already a masterpiece in its own right. The playing is both technically stunning and emotionally inspired. The lyrics are smart, thought-provoking, and even heart-wrenching at times with their imagery. The music compliments them so well too. Even the sounds of the instruments themselves do wonders to enhance the listening experience. There is not a single flaw or low point on the entire album.

In short, it's a dark, abrasive listen, but one that sports the best balance of evolution and diversity in any album I've ever heard. It's a monumental offering from my personal favorite prog group. Red may still be my favorite album, but Godbluff is still perfect too and a ridiculously close second.


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Originally posted by Stool Man Stool Man wrote:

what's so special about Godbluff?
 
Wait a minute...I thought you implied we were doing more Yes albums.....
 
 
oh....and there is nothing special about Godbluff.....and Hammil can't sing his way out of a paper bag.
 
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Originally posted by Neo-Romantic Neo-Romantic wrote:

Dude, I'm always jumping at the chance to be as obnoxious as possible in heaping praise upon this critical achievement in music history! I love this album so much.

Fanboy outburst aside, it's one of the most emotional, intriguing, and texturally rich albums I've ever heard. It's the pinnacle example of an album in which the whole is greater than the sum of its parts, but each part alone is already a masterpiece in its own right. The playing is both technically stunning and emotionally inspired. The lyrics are smart, thought-provoking, and even heart-wrenching at times with their imagery. The music compliments them so well too. Even the sounds of the instruments themselves do wonders to enhance the listening experience. There is not a single flaw or low point on the entire album.

In short, it's a dark, abrasive listen, but one that sports the best balance of evolution and diversity in any album I've ever heard. It's a monumental offering from my personal favorite prog group. Red may still be my favorite album, but Godbluff is still perfect too and a ridiculously close second.

Just curious...but have you ever had your hearing checked by a competent audiologist.
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Another album I don't know anything about.... The only thing I have of VdGG is a compilation. 
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Originally posted by dr wu23 dr wu23 wrote:

Originally posted by Neo-Romantic Neo-Romantic wrote:

Dude, I'm always jumping at the chance to be as obnoxious as possible in heaping praise upon this critical achievement in music history! I love this album so much.

Fanboy outburst aside, it's one of the most emotional, intriguing, and texturally rich albums I've ever heard. It's the pinnacle example of an album in which the whole is greater than the sum of its parts, but each part alone is already a masterpiece in its own right. The playing is both technically stunning and emotionally inspired. The lyrics are smart, thought-provoking, and even heart-wrenching at times with their imagery. The music compliments them so well too. Even the sounds of the instruments themselves do wonders to enhance the listening experience. There is not a single flaw or low point on the entire album.

In short, it's a dark, abrasive listen, but one that sports the best balance of evolution and diversity in any album I've ever heard. It's a monumental offering from my personal favorite prog group. Red may still be my favorite album, but Godbluff is still perfect too and a ridiculously close second.

Just curious...but have you ever had your hearing checked by a competent audiologist.
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My hearing is totally functional. I just love his style Tongue Totally aware though that it's polarizing and don't question the taste of people on the other side of the fence. I just admire the fact that he and the pand are powerful enough to warrant such strong opinions, good or bad. The worst fate that can befall any work of art in my book is complete and total indifference. Then it's insignificant.

Of course I just gave an argument why Godbluff and VDGG are plenty special, whether you like them or not Wink

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I think what's so special about Godbluff is that after a 3 year hiatus, VDGG came back with a completely different statement of what it meant to be a prog band in the mid 70's.  The band came back with a much harder edge.  Hugh Banton traded his reverb drenched cathedral organ sounds for a nasty, in your face electronic organ tone.  Guy Evans leaned more rock than jazz.  Jaxon was about the same (completely insane).  And PH, what happened to him in those 3 years?  He cut all his hair off, dropped the lyrics about emporers and lighthouse keepers and just went for the throat with a raw vocal style no one thought he could pull off.  His smooth high falsetto sounded even more angelic compared with his guttural growls.  I think Godbluff was the 1st prog album of it's time - maybe the only one - to incorporate angry punk sensibilities in a 10+ minute song format.  It's a masterpiece.
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I've only had Godbluff for about 3 months but the organ sound is what stands out for me.. and perhaps also the drumming. Hammill sounds his usual demented self which will scare old ladies and small children. Overall its pretty decent to my ears but I can't wax lyrical about it just yet.
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Originally posted by Neo-Romantic Neo-Romantic wrote:

Originally posted by dr wu23 dr wu23 wrote:

Originally posted by Neo-Romantic Neo-Romantic wrote:

Dude, I'm always jumping at the chance to be as obnoxious as possible in heaping praise upon this critical achievement in music history! I love this album so much.

Fanboy outburst aside, it's one of the most emotional, intriguing, and texturally rich albums I've ever heard. It's the pinnacle example of an album in which the whole is greater than the sum of its parts, but each part alone is already a masterpiece in its own right. The playing is both technically stunning and emotionally inspired. The lyrics are smart, thought-provoking, and even heart-wrenching at times with their imagery. The music compliments them so well too. Even the sounds of the instruments themselves do wonders to enhance the listening experience. There is not a single flaw or low point on the entire album.

In short, it's a dark, abrasive listen, but one that sports the best balance of evolution and diversity in any album I've ever heard. It's a monumental offering from my personal favorite prog group. Red may still be my favorite album, but Godbluff is still perfect too and a ridiculously close second.

Just curious...but have you ever had your hearing checked by a competent audiologist.
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My hearing is totally functional. I just love his style Tongue Totally aware though that it's polarizing and don't question the taste of people on the other side of the fence. I just admire the fact that he and the pand are powerful enough to warrant such strong opinions, good or bad. The worst fate that can befall any work of art in my book is complete and total indifference. Then it's insignificant.

Of course I just gave an argument why Godbluff and VDGG are plenty special, whether you like them or not Wink


And he gave no argument to the contrary other than to question your ears, lame. That is why these threads usually devolve into ignorance.
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Originally posted by Neo-Romantic Neo-Romantic wrote:

Originally posted by dr wu23 dr wu23 wrote:

Originally posted by Neo-Romantic Neo-Romantic wrote:

Dude, I'm always jumping at the chance to be as obnoxious as possible in heaping praise upon this critical achievement in music history! I love this album so much.

Fanboy outburst aside, it's one of the most emotional, intriguing, and texturally rich albums I've ever heard. It's the pinnacle example of an album in which the whole is greater than the sum of its parts, but each part alone is already a masterpiece in its own right. The playing is both technically stunning and emotionally inspired. The lyrics are smart, thought-provoking, and even heart-wrenching at times with their imagery. The music compliments them so well too. Even the sounds of the instruments themselves do wonders to enhance the listening experience. There is not a single flaw or low point on the entire album.

In short, it's a dark, abrasive listen, but one that sports the best balance of evolution and diversity in any album I've ever heard. It's a monumental offering from my personal favorite prog group. Red may still be my favorite album, but Godbluff is still perfect too and a ridiculously close second.

Just curious...but have you ever had your hearing checked by a competent audiologist.
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My hearing is totally functional. I just love his style Tongue Totally aware though that it's polarizing and don't question the taste of people on the other side of the fence. I just admire the fact that he and the pand are powerful enough to warrant such strong opinions, good or bad. The worst fate that can befall any work of art in my book is complete and total indifference. Then it's insignificant.

Of course I just gave an argument why Godbluff and VDGG are plenty special, whether you like them or not Wink

I understand and I was just 'taking the piss' as the Brits would say.
I like the music by VDGG, it's just Hammil's vocals that bother me.
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Originally posted by timothy leary timothy leary wrote:

Originally posted by Neo-Romantic Neo-Romantic wrote:

Originally posted by dr wu23 dr wu23 wrote:

Originally posted by Neo-Romantic Neo-Romantic wrote:

Dude, I'm always jumping at the chance to be as obnoxious as possible in heaping praise upon this critical achievement in music history! I love this album so much.

Fanboy outburst aside, it's one of the most emotional, intriguing, and texturally rich albums I've ever heard. It's the pinnacle example of an album in which the whole is greater than the sum of its parts, but each part alone is already a masterpiece in its own right. The playing is both technically stunning and emotionally inspired. The lyrics are smart, thought-provoking, and even heart-wrenching at times with their imagery. The music compliments them so well too. Even the sounds of the instruments themselves do wonders to enhance the listening experience. There is not a single flaw or low point on the entire album.

In short, it's a dark, abrasive listen, but one that sports the best balance of evolution and diversity in any album I've ever heard. It's a monumental offering from my personal favorite prog group. Red may still be my favorite album, but Godbluff is still perfect too and a ridiculously close second.

Just curious...but have you ever had your hearing checked by a competent audiologist.
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My hearing is totally functional. I just love his style Tongue Totally aware though that it's polarizing and don't question the taste of people on the other side of the fence. I just admire the fact that he and the pand are powerful enough to warrant such strong opinions, good or bad. The worst fate that can befall any work of art in my book is complete and total indifference. Then it's insignificant.

Of course I just gave an argument why Godbluff and VDGG are plenty special, whether you like them or not Wink


And he gave no argument to the contrary other than to question your ears, lame. That is why these threads usually devolve into ignorance.
Argument to the contrary....? Ignorance...? 
You are starting to sound like our resident  board curmudgeon.
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I played Scorched Earth for a young drummer who had never heard VdGG before, and what really impressed him was they way they were playing for the band as a whole. If you love flashy solos, there are plenty of other bands you can listen to.

If Iím not mistaken, VdGG performed these four outstanding songs live several times before they recorded the album. Thatís probably a good idea; they sound tight and confident from the first whisper to the last wailing.

To my ears Godbluff is close to perfection. And my hearing isnít that bad; at least I can still hear the cicadas.
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