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    Posted: January 03 2014 at 05:31
Here are two songs which are strikingly similar to each other, im pointing at the piano melody and the scatting in the middle, is it Haken who borrows the piano melody or is it mere coincidence 




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Post Options Post Options   Quote M27Barney Quote  Post ReplyReply Direct Link To This Post Posted: January 03 2014 at 15:47
The world is teeming with coincidences, this is one.
Can you prove otherwise?
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It's true, the piano melodies are similar, but I find it hard to believe that Haken purposefully stole a piano melody from a 2000s pop song.
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Post Options Post Options   Quote Metalmarsh89 Quote  Post ReplyReply Direct Link To This Post Posted: January 03 2014 at 16:52
Originally posted by Andy Webb

It's true, the piano melodies are similar, but I find it hard to believe that Haken purposefully stole a piano melody from a 2000s pop song.


All the more reason to do it! Evil Smile

But I also believe it's a mere coincidence.

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Post Options Post Options   Quote Horizons Quote  Post ReplyReply Direct Link To This Post Posted: January 03 2014 at 17:22
I think the singing is similar too. 
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Edited by Bonnek - January 05 2014 at 03:41
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Post Options Post Options   Quote Catcher10 Quote  Post ReplyReply Direct Link To This Post Posted: January 04 2014 at 19:16
Each should cover one of their songs.....Seriously though I find a lot of similar piano tidbits in music.
      
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Post Options Post Options   Quote King Crimson776 Quote  Post ReplyReply Direct Link To This Post Posted: January 16 2014 at 22:48
Haken is sort of 'Vanessa Carlton' metal. That said they have a nice symphonical element to their music that gives them their content. Oh and the wacky fusion bits.
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Post Options Post Options   Quote Icarium Quote  Post ReplyReply Direct Link To This Post Posted: January 19 2014 at 10:18
One is related to Larry Carlton, the other is not
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Post Options Post Options   Quote richardh Quote  Post ReplyReply Direct Link To This Post Posted: January 20 2014 at 01:31
A lot of what Haken does sounds familiar to me

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Post Options Post Options   Quote M27Barney Quote  Post ReplyReply Direct Link To This Post Posted: January 20 2014 at 03:32
Originally posted by richardh


A lot of what Haken does sounds familiar to me

Aye - on their first CD , there is a section that lifts the rift from "Alaska" by Pendragon - whether that is just coincidental though is open to debate and depends if any of the Haken mob have actually listened to Pendragon enough to have lifted their riff.
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Post Options Post Options   Quote richardh Quote  Post ReplyReply Direct Link To This Post Posted: January 21 2014 at 01:18
Originally posted by M27Barney

Originally posted by richardh


A lot of what Haken does sounds familiar to me

Aye - on their first CD , there is a section that lifts the rift from "Alaska" by Pendragon - whether that is just coincidental though is open to debate and depends if any of the Haken mob have actually listened to Pendragon enough to have lifted their riff.

I didn't know that one but obviously there is the Gentle Giant bit on Cockroach King but I also hear King Crimson and Anathema. To be fair its quite impressive that they can move seamlessly between a variety of styles. Its an interesting album for sure but as I remarked in my review I'm not hearing a coherent creative vision that is uniquely theirs and that bothers me. Perhaps I was harsh although if had been a debut album and not their third then I would have been more understanding.
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Originally posted by Padraic

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Post Options Post Options   Quote bloodnarfer Quote  Post ReplyReply Direct Link To This Post Posted: January 23 2014 at 09:37
I knew there was something fishy going on with Haken... HA
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