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    Posted: January 03 2014 at 05:31
Here are two songs which are strikingly similar to each other, im pointing at the piano melody and the scatting in the middle, is it Haken who borrows the piano melody or is it mere coincidence 
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The world is teeming with coincidences, this is one.
Can you prove otherwise?
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It's true, the piano melodies are similar, but I find it hard to believe that Haken purposefully stole a piano melody from a 2000s pop song.
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LOL
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Originally posted by Andy Webb Andy Webb wrote:

It's true, the piano melodies are similar, but I find it hard to believe that Haken purposefully stole a piano melody from a 2000s pop song.


All the more reason to do it! Evil Smile

But I also believe it's a mere coincidence.
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I think the singing is similar too. 
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Edited by Bonnek - January 05 2014 at 03:41
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Each should cover one of their songs.....Seriously though I find a lot of similar piano tidbits in music.


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Haken is sort of 'Vanessa Carlton' metal. That said they have a nice symphonical element to their music that gives them their content. Oh and the wacky fusion bits.
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One is related to Larry Carlton, the other is not
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A lot of what Haken does sounds familiar to me

Edited by richardh - January 20 2014 at 01:32
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Originally posted by richardh richardh wrote:


A lot of what Haken does sounds familiar to me

Aye - on their first CD , there is a section that lifts the rift from "Alaska" by Pendragon - whether that is just coincidental though is open to debate and depends if any of the Haken mob have actually listened to Pendragon enough to have lifted their riff.
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Originally posted by M27Barney M27Barney wrote:

Originally posted by richardh richardh wrote:


A lot of what Haken does sounds familiar to me

Aye - on their first CD , there is a section that lifts the rift from "Alaska" by Pendragon - whether that is just coincidental though is open to debate and depends if any of the Haken mob have actually listened to Pendragon enough to have lifted their riff.

I didn't know that one but obviously there is the Gentle Giant bit on Cockroach King but I also hear King Crimson and Anathema. To be fair its quite impressive that they can move seamlessly between a variety of styles. Its an interesting album for sure but as I remarked in my review I'm not hearing a coherent creative vision that is uniquely theirs and that bothers me. Perhaps I was harsh although if had been a debut album and not their third then I would have been more understanding.
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Originally posted by Padraic Padraic wrote:

LOL
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I knew there was something fishy going on with Haken... HA
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