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Posted: July 07 2014 at 12:22

MillsLayne wrote:

And the Petty 43 was back in victory lane at Daytona with Aric Almirola (the 43 has been winless since '99) after the race was called for MORE rain at around the 110 lap mark. It's Aric's first Cup win and on the weekend of the 30th anniversary of King Richard's 200th and final victory in Daytona in '84.

That was an outstanding race, in my opinion. Shame the weather cut it short. I was hoping the #24 could challenge for another top-ten finish.

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Posted: July 08 2014 at 02:28

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I'd forgotten Pocono was a double points race, as is Fontana at the season final. He's been consistently challenging for top 5's and the way some of the recent races have gone you never know. It could be '99 all over again!

Indeed!

It does seem that in Indy the top drivers are kind of inconsistent (RHR or Power, while more steady ones tend to get like 1 win a year (Helio).

Oh and poor Hinch who just has crap luck.

Maybe Pagenaud can be a sleeper threat?

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Posted: July 08 2014 at 06:16

He's certainly looked like a genuine contender this year and has already won 2 races.

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Posted: July 15 2014 at 21:01

This sounds interesting.

http://www.autosport.com/news/report.php/id/114968

Edited by MillsLayne - July 15 2014 at 21:01

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Posted: July 16 2014 at 05:57

It does sound like fun but Mathias will win it easily, he's a fair bit older and has raced single seaters up to GP2 level and raced in the DTM and GT's for years, Freddie hasn't done any racing for 4 or 5 years.

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Posted: July 18 2014 at 10:10

Practice from Hockenheim.


Pos Driver                Team                   Time      Gap      Laps
 1. Lewis Hamilton        Mercedes               1m18.341s           38
 2. Nico Rosberg          Mercedes               1m18.365s  +0.024s  39
 3. Daniel Ricciardo      Red Bull-Renault       1m18.443s  +0.102s  35
 4. Kimi Raikkonen        Ferrari                1m18.887s  +0.546s  38
 5. Kevin Magnussen       McLaren-Mercedes       1m18.960s  +0.619s  40
 6. Felipe Massa          Williams-Mercedes      1m19.024s  +0.683s  36
 7. Jenson Button         McLaren-Mercedes       1m19.221s  +0.880s  40
 8. Sebastian Vettel      Red Bull-Renault       1m19.248s  +0.907s  35
 9. Fernando Alonso       Ferrari                1m19.329s  +0.988s  32
10. Valtteri Bottas       Williams-Mercedes      1m19.385s  +1.044s  34
11. Adrian Sutil          Sauber-Ferrari         1m19.417s  +1.076s  41
12. Daniil Kvyat          Toro Rosso-Renault     1m19.452s  +1.111s  27
13. Sergio Perez          Force India-Mercedes   1m19.581s  +1.240s  28
14. Nico Hulkenberg       Force India-Mercedes   1m19.593s  +1.252s  32
15. Jean-Eric Vergne      Toro Rosso-Renault     1m19.760s  +1.419s  32
16. Pastor Maldonado      Lotus-Renault          1m20.158s  +1.817s  35
17. Romain Grosjean       Lotus-Renault          1m20.358s  +2.017s  35
18. Esteban Gutierrez     Sauber-Ferrari         1m20.504s  +2.163s  40
19. Jules Bianchi         Marussia-Ferrari       1m21.328s  +2.987s  31
20. Marcus Ericsson       Caterham-Renault       1m21.870s  +3.529s  21
21. Max Chilton           Marussia-Ferrari       1m21.898s  +3.557s  28
22. Kamui Kobayashi       Caterham-Renault       1m23.728s  +5.387s  12

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Posted: July 18 2014 at 18:03

sleeper wrote:

It does sound like fun but Mathias will win it easily, he's a fair bit older and has raced single seaters up to GP2 level and raced in the DTM and GT's for years, Freddie hasn't done any racing for 4 or 5 years.

True, although it sounds like Freddie is getting something together to eventually get to LMP2. It's just too bad that he has a gap now in his career. He'll be a bit behind in his experience.

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Posted: July 19 2014 at 12:37

Another poll for Rosberg, Hamilton looked like the faster driver but his right front brake disc failed half way through Q1, it's confirmed he'll start from the pit lane. Great job by Magnussen for 4th. Given that Rosberg doesn't seem able to get off the line quickly I reckon Bottas will grab the lead early on.

Pos Driver                Team                 Time          Gap   
 1. Nico Rosberg          Mercedes             1m16.540s            
 2. Valtteri Bottas       Williams-Mercedes    1m16.759s  +0.219s   
 3. Felipe Massa          Williams-Mercedes    1m17.078s  +0.538s   
 4. Kevin Magnussen       McLaren-Mercedes     1m17.214s  +0.674s   
 5. Daniel Ricciardo      Red Bull-Renault     1m17.273s  +0.733s   
 6. Sebastian Vettel      Red Bull-Renault     1m17.577s  +1.037s   
 7. Fernando Alonso       Ferrari              1m17.649s  +1.109s   
 8. Daniil Kvyat          Toro Rosso-Renault   1m17.965s  +1.425s   
 9. Nico Hulkenberg       Force India-Mercedes 1m18.014s  +1.474s   
10. Sergio Perez          Force India-Mercedes 1m18.035s  +1.495s   
Q2 cut-off time: 1m18.161s                                   Gap **
11. Jenson Button         McLaren-Mercedes     1m18.193s  +1.084s
12. Kimi Raikkonen        Ferrari              1m18.273s  +1.164s
13. Jean-Eric Vergne      Toro Rosso-Renault   1m18.285s  +1.176s
14. Esteban Gutierrez     Sauber-Ferrari       1m18.787s  +1.678s
15. Romain Grosjean       Lotus-Renault        1m18.983s  +1.874s
16. Lewis Hamilton        Mercedes             no time
Q1 cut-off time: 1m18.927s                                     Gap *
17. Adrian Sutil          Sauber-Ferrari       1m19.142s  +1.511s
18. Jules Bianchi         Marussia-Ferrari     1m19.676s  +2.045s
19. Pastor Maldonado      Lotus-Renault        1m20.195s  +2.564s
20. Kamui Kobayashi       Caterham-Renault     1m20.408s  +2.777s
21. Max Chilton           Marussia-Ferrari     1m20.489s  +2.858s
22. Marcus Ericsson       Caterham-Renault     no time

Bourdais on poll for tonights race in Toronto.

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Posted: July 19 2014 at 13:16

Sebastien Bourdais on the pole for Toronto.

http://www.indycar.com/News/2014/07/7-19-Bourdais-prevails-in-Honda-Indy-Toronto-Race-1-qualifications

Starting Line-up.

http://www.imscdn.com/indycar_media/documents/2014-07-19/TOR%20indycar-startinglineup.pdf

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Posted: July 19 2014 at 15:28

sleeper wrote:

Another poll for Rosberg, Hamilton looked like the faster driver but his right front brake disc failed half way through Q1, it's confirmed he'll start from the pit lane. Great job by Magnussen for 4th. Given that Rosberg doesn't seem able to get off the line quickly I reckon Bottas will grab the lead early on.

Pos Driver                Team                 Time          Gap   
 1. Nico Rosberg          Mercedes             1m16.540s            
 2. Valtteri Bottas       Williams-Mercedes    1m16.759s  +0.219s   
 3. Felipe Massa          Williams-Mercedes    1m17.078s  +0.538s   
 4. Kevin Magnussen       McLaren-Mercedes     1m17.214s  +0.674s   
 5. Daniel Ricciardo      Red Bull-Renault     1m17.273s  +0.733s   
 6. Sebastian Vettel      Red Bull-Renault     1m17.577s  +1.037s   
 7. Fernando Alonso       Ferrari              1m17.649s  +1.109s   
 8. Daniil Kvyat          Toro Rosso-Renault   1m17.965s  +1.425s   
 9. Nico Hulkenberg       Force India-Mercedes 1m18.014s  +1.474s   
10. Sergio Perez          Force India-Mercedes 1m18.035s  +1.495s   
Q2 cut-off time: 1m18.161s                                   Gap **
11. Jenson Button         McLaren-Mercedes     1m18.193s  +1.084s
12. Kimi Raikkonen        Ferrari              1m18.273s  +1.164s
13. Jean-Eric Vergne      Toro Rosso-Renault   1m18.285s  +1.176s
14. Esteban Gutierrez     Sauber-Ferrari       1m18.787s  +1.678s
15. Romain Grosjean       Lotus-Renault        1m18.983s  +1.874s
16. Lewis Hamilton        Mercedes             no time
Q1 cut-off time: 1m18.927s                                     Gap *
17. Adrian Sutil          Sauber-Ferrari       1m19.142s  +1.511s
18. Jules Bianchi         Marussia-Ferrari     1m19.676s  +2.045s
19. Pastor Maldonado      Lotus-Renault        1m20.195s  +2.564s
20. Kamui Kobayashi       Caterham-Renault     1m20.408s  +2.777s
21. Max Chilton           Marussia-Ferrari     1m20.489s  +2.858s
22. Marcus Ericsson       Caterham-Renault     no time

Bourdais on poll for tonights race in Toronto.

Great work by the Williams and also Magnussen, and Kvyat reconfirms that he is not in F1 by chance. Gonna be a though one for Hamilton.

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Posted: July 19 2014 at 20:50

Button...

Outpaced by Mags all weekend long so far. Doesn't look for JB, especially with all these rumors flying around that he could be ousted from McLaren for 2015.

And IndyCar will have two races tomorrow since today's was rained out. Crazy on track activity, though, with the pace car spinning during the warm up laps.

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Posted: July 19 2014 at 22:35

^ At this rate, is that such a bad thing?

And

wow...never seen that before! No wonder they had to call it.

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Posted: July 19 2014 at 22:49

I'm sorry, since I know there are Button lovers here, but I think it's just being realistic...will he retain his current ride for 2015? Was a good stretch Button, proved a lot of people wrong and became that British champion so many expected after all...but I think it's time someone better gets his seat.

Crazy indeed! Looks like Indy is tightening up a bit to boot...this shall be a good rest of the season.

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Posted: July 20 2014 at 06:12

Unless Alonso's ready to leave Ferrari and return to McLaren, I really don't think there's anyone out there thats definitely better than Button that's available. Grosjean's ultimate ability is hard to tell at the moment and though I reckon Hulk is probably a bit faster but has already been turned down due to weight considerations once and is notably hard on his rear tyres. The only other guys out there worth looking at are tied down to other teams (Bottas with Williams, Bianchi with Ferrari, Kvyat with Red Bull).

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Posted: July 20 2014 at 14:38

Excellent race, the wheel to wheel action throughout was brilliant. A shame for Massa, thats 3 races in a row that he;s been taken out by someone, though this time I'd say it was an unfortunate racing incident with Magnussen.

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Posted: July 20 2014 at 15:10

^ Indeed...I quite enjoyed it. Great to see Nico extend the points lead too.

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Posted: July 20 2014 at 16:41

Good race and it's funny, because I usually disagree with Lewis Hamilton, but today I have to agree with him about the lack of safety for Sutil's stalled car in the middle of the track. It was off the racing the line, but that still could've been bad. That's usually an automatic SC.

And I know Button's career is towards it's end, but I feel like he's still plenty fast if McLaren could get their crap together. He won three races in 2012 before the team plummeted last year, so he can still win.

In Toronto today, Sebastian Bourdais won the first race and Mike Conway just took the checkers for the second race. Castroneves had some wing issues at the end of the second race with Will Power taking third, so the points are tightening up now. I can't wait to go to the Sonoma race in August for the next to last round of the season to see how the championship shapes up.

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Posted: July 20 2014 at 17:17

^ Yeah...some sh*t luck for Castroneves there. Shame IMO. Though, it does feel weird to be rooting against Power.

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Posted: July 20 2014 at 18:05

Bourdais's first single seater win since Mexico City 2007!

Interesting how this season is ending up as a fight between the perennial bridesmaids Catsroneves and Power.

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Posted: July 20 2014 at 18:12

I actually don't mind Power, but Helio is one of my favorite drivers and since he's come so close to a championship, I'm hoping so bad that he can seal the deal this year.