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Direct Link To This Post Posted: May 02 2008 at 15:51
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Does that question have anything to do with my post or the thread in general?



no, its just that you cant play shred guitar without having some rock/metal elements.
 so you dont have to say.. rock+ jazz+sh...
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You revived that thread. Wink


i stepped on a nail, and i cant get out of my house for a week. so i glad to discuss old pointless topics, that just going in pointless loops, i have allot of time on my hands.
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Direct Link To This Post Posted: May 02 2008 at 16:29
Originally posted by stonebeard stonebeard wrote:

no.


I stand by this old freakin post. Vai sometimes has complex rhythms, adventurous sounds 'n' all, but I believe if we take things in historical context and not entirely in a "sounds like" vacuum, Vai does not belog here at all.
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Direct Link To This Post Posted: May 02 2008 at 16:41
Originally posted by bluesynight bluesynight wrote:

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Does that question have anything to do with my post or the thread in general?



no, its just that you cant play shred guitar without having some rock/metal elements.
 so you dont have to say.. rock+ jazz+sh...



Ok, I see. I use the word "shred" more generally ... for me it describes music which is based on virtuosic playing of one instrument in a "rocking" context ... might be rock, metal or jazz-fusion.

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You revived that thread. Wink


i stepped on a nail, and i cant get out of my house for a week. so i glad to discuss old pointless topics, that just going in pointless loops, i have allot of time on my hands.


So what's keeping you from rating & tagging some Vai albums at Ratingfreak.com? Currently there are only Hughes and me ... Embarrassed
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Direct Link To This Post Posted: May 02 2008 at 17:31
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So what's keeping you from rating & tagging some Vai albums at Ratingfreak.com? Currently there are only Hughes and me ... Embarrassed


hey its not a bad idea, i feel like i'm getting brainwashedWacko, but its not a bad idea.


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Direct Link To This Post Posted: May 02 2008 at 17:35
Absolutely not.  There is a difference between complex music and prog music, and it's really not that hard to see.
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Direct Link To This Post Posted: May 02 2008 at 17:48
Originally posted by stonebeard stonebeard wrote:


I believe if we take things in historical context and not entirely in a "sounds like" vacuum, Vai does not belog here at all.


depends on what you mean by "historical context", as in his early solo work, or his work with zappa?
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Direct Link To This Post Posted: May 02 2008 at 17:51
Originally posted by bluesynight bluesynight wrote:

Originally posted by stonebeard stonebeard wrote:


I believe if we take things in historical context and not entirely in a "sounds like" vacuum, Vai does not belog here at all.


depends on what you mean by "historical context", as in his early solo work, or his work with zappa?


His work with Zappa doesn't count. That would be like adding Phil Collins' solo albums because he was in Genesis.
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Direct Link To This Post Posted: May 02 2008 at 17:58
Originally posted by stonebeard stonebeard wrote:

Originally posted by bluesynight bluesynight wrote:

Originally posted by stonebeard stonebeard wrote:


I believe if we take things in historical context and not entirely in a "sounds like" vacuum, Vai does not belog here at all.


depends on what you mean by "historical context", as in his early solo work, or his work with zappa?


His work with Zappa doesn't count. That would be like adding Phil Collins' solo albums because he was in Genesis.


Vai never made mainstream music - not on his solo albums. Even songs like Tender Surrender (for which he got a Grammy) weren't mainstream/pop.


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Direct Link To This Post Posted: May 02 2008 at 17:59
actually there are some rules about it on this site,i cant remember, something about "completing the big picture". its the main reason for why petrucci's solo work is here. and if you check vai's page, you see that its says...
Why this artist must be listed in www.progarchives.com :

Progressive guitar composer and Zappa alumni.
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Direct Link To This Post Posted: May 02 2008 at 18:00
Pop doesn't factor into it, it's about evaluating an artist by his solo work, not by what he did in other bands.
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