Kati: I think you'd find a lot of brilliant artists in this list. For me it shows just how melodic and strong the 80s were - especially from a songwriting pov. The above track I posted is from the 90s though, but acts such as Japan and Siouxsie were equally great in that department.
This is a particular fave of mine from Japan, who back then sported a decisively younger and more make-up laden Richard Barbieri:
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“The Guide says there is an art to flying or rather a knack. The knack lies in learning how to throw yourself at the ground and miss.”
I am at a lost here, unless anyone has great suggestions for me to listen to and prove me wrong. I find punk noisy, going no where just a bunch of gajan... gajan... gaja... sounding guitar strumming, plus singing, no structure, no layers nothing and that's it.
Yes, that's about right. Nothing more iconic and dreadful at the same time as the Pistols record. God, that's noisy. Of course there was pub rock as well. 2 guitars, bass, vocals and insistent confomist dullness. The Soviet Union of rock and roll.
Magazine have some interesting moments, reallythe new wave was the art rock arm of punk (sort of quietly re-beginning harmonic adventures). Musicians who wanted to do more than what the Sex Dunce Pistols insisted everyone do. The Cure are fine, in fact some extended works on some of the deluxe editions Faith is recommended. Great bass playing as well. Can't quite recommend the live stuff (audio quality wise, bit too bootleg even for me...).
Page and Plant toured with Porl Thompson (The Cure) and did a great version of Lullaby on Disintegration (a great symphonic album btw). And to think this was after I had an argument with a Cure fan who thought my championing of anything Zeppelin was stoopid. I merely thought both bands had unique and vital approaches to modern rock and both had (not obvious) but certain commonalities (outside of blues). Then look what happened... Pop politics, ridiculous.
I'm in a fine mood after Seconds Out. Genesis were so... wonderful...
I'm all for rebellious rock and roll (good fun) as well as the civilized stuff. I just get frustrated with someone creating a notion that some music should not be heard or played because of some fashion idea. I blame Malcolm McLaren (who made some really awful records as well.) e.g. Buffalo Girls. (shudder).
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Posted: March 08 2014 at 03:30
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I am at a lost here, unless anyone has great suggestions for me to listen to and prove me wrong. I find punk noisy, going no where just a bunch of gajan... gajan... gaja... sounding guitar strumming, plus singing, no structure, no layers nothing and that's it.
Guldbamsem yay hello you!!! mhwoaaashhxxxxx te tem te ti ti tik tik listening right now but I am a having a bit of difficulty In enjoying this song bah I am so sorry :(
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Posted: March 08 2014 at 03:26
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Kati wrote:
I am at a lost here, unless anyone has great suggestions for me to listen to and prove me wrong. I find punk noisy, going no where just a bunch of gajan... gajan... gaja... sounding guitar strumming, plus singing, no structure, no layers nothing and that's it.
What do you want help with Kati? None (see above) of these bands are punk bands. If you want the less noisy variety then check out Cocteaus and Dead Can Dance and The Cure. All of which are brilliant. DCD are on PA. Steer clear of The Fall as they are noisy but of course, brilliant too and one day you might find yourself in a Mark E Smith zone. Variety is the Spice of Life.
Hello akamaisondufromage,
Thank you for your suggestion in regards to the Cure, Cocteaus and Dead can dance I am most curious and will go look right now at them I love instrumentals, with great lead and respond between them inc. just guitars I do not miss vocalists. With Punk I have found that it mostly just playing whatever, I cannot follow it. Again thank you very much, hugs btw doesn't fromage mean cheese in French?
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Kati wrote:
I am at a lost here, unless anyone has great suggestions for me to listen to and prove me wrong. I find punk noisy, going no where just a bunch of gajan... gajan... gaja... sounding guitar strumming, plus singing, no structure, no layers nothing and that's it.
What do you want help with Kati? None (see above) of these bands are punk bands. If you want the less noisy variety then check out Cocteaus and Dead Can Dance and The Cure. All of which are brilliant. DCD are on PA. Steer clear of The Fall as they are noisy but of course, brilliant too and one day you might find yourself in a Mark E Smith zone. Variety is the Spice of Life.
Hello akamaisondufromage, Thank you for your suggestion in regards to the Cure, Cocteaus and Dead can dance I am most curious and will go look right now at them I love instrumentals, with great lead and respond between them inc. just guitars I do not miss vocalists. With Punk I have found that it mostly just playing whatever, I cannot follow it. Again thank you very much, hugs btw doesn't fromage mean cheese in French?
I am at a lost here, unless anyone has great suggestions for me to listen to and prove me wrong. I find punk noisy, going no where just a bunch of gajan... gajan... gaja... sounding guitar strumming, plus singing, no structure, no layers nothing and that's it.
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Posted: March 08 2014 at 03:12
Kati wrote:
I am at a lost here, unless anyone has great suggestions for me to listen to and prove me wrong. I find punk noisy, going no where just a bunch of gajan... gajan... gaja... sounding guitar strumming, plus singing, no structure, no layers nothing and that's it.
What do you want help with Kati? None (see above) of these bands are punk bands. If you want the less noisy variety then check out Cocteaus and Dead Can Dance and The Cure. All of which are brilliant. DCD are on PA. Steer clear of The Fall as they are noisy but of course, brilliant too and one day you might find yourself in a Mark E Smith zone. Variety is the Spice of Life.
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Posted: March 08 2014 at 03:03
As I said PP is such a broad church that there are way more than 25 bands to name I didn't put Wire in there purely as they don't figure much in my top 25 - however, they are one of the biggies so perhaps I should have put them in. I did also say I would miss my favourites = The Fall!!! Doh! Apologies to all the Fall fans out there (I know there are several).
Punk is Dead is the title of a song by Crass (who could arguably be PP too). It's an argument that has been going on since Punk began lol. But the point, my point is, these are the bands that came around when that debate started. Although, Sex Gang Children were labelled 'Positive Punk' at the time (along with Bauhaus) by some music jorno, but the label didn't last long and those bands mainly ended up absorbed into what we commonly call Goth these days.
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I am at a lost here, unless anyone has great suggestions for me to listen to and prove me wrong. I find punk noisy, going no where just a bunch of gajan... gajan... gaja... sounding guitar strumming, plus singing, no structure, no layers nothing and that's it.
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Posted: March 08 2014 at 02:44
The Cure, Magazine, Wire.
(some Talking Heads, XTC)
Spent a lot of time trying to get in to a lot of the other bands, but to no avail. Eager to find more from this side of music... but no sense in rushing it.
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Posted: March 08 2014 at 02:32
I think the "post-punk" categorization refers not to coming after punk chronologically, but just to the artists coming from an obvious punk background while at the same time moving their music beyond what can be accurately categorized as belonging to the genre.
"The past is not some static being, it is not a previous present, nor a present that has passed away; the past has its own dynamic being which is constantly renewed and renewing." - Claire Colebrook
The Cure, Magazine or Talking Heads..... The Cure this time around.
What killed prog was the press. Genesis were selling arenas and headlining Knebworth while The Pistols played to 200 in the 100 Club. Better chances for the hacks to get access to better drugs, parties and validate their own existence since PF et al did not need them really.
Rock is a funny world. The only time you can be seen to be "better" by being worse than someone. (Sid Vicious versus Mike Rutherford...)
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Posted: March 07 2014 at 23:39
Not sure I understand this forum poll, "has punk died"? I personally believe that punk killed prog in the early 80's tho' naughty punk! Bah hugs to all
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Kati wrote:
not good 
I am so sorry :(
I am most curious and will go look right now at them 
naughty punk! Bah 
