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Nogbad_The_Bad
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Posted: March 12 2014 at 06:58 |
Svetonio wrote:
Nogbad_The_Bad wrote:
The OP is asking for the one album in an artists discography that ruins it. That means you think Platinum is the only bad album by Oldfield. I find your opinion unfathomable. There are easily half a dozen worse than Platinum. Platinum isn't top 3, but its certainly not bottom 1. |
Maybe I misunderstood the question from the OP, but after Platinium I lost interest for further Oldfield's work, and I was not the only one.
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Xonty wrote:
Hello, can anyone think of any single albums that completely ruin a band's discography. Struggling to think of any in particular, as most prog bands just go downhill towards the end of their careers (ELP, Genesis, arguably Yes, Pink Floyd, etc.) |
I happen to agree that TB through Incantations is by far the best period for Oldfield, I still like Crises, Platinum & QE2 but after that it drops off pretty dramatically. There's the occasional good album, Amarok & Songs Of Distant Earth for example, but otherwise not so much.
Edited by Nogbad_The_Bad - March 12 2014 at 07:00
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AtomicCrimsonRush
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Posted: March 12 2014 at 06:52 |
The Final Cut ruins Pink Floyds list Love Beach and the followup ruins ELP Big Generator ruins Yes Presto ruins Rush
now for the flaming - theres always someone out ther in a negative thread who loves even this lot!
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Svetonio
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Posted: March 12 2014 at 06:21 |
Nogbad_The_Bad wrote:
The OP is asking for the one album in an artists discography that ruins it. That means you think Platinum is the only bad album by Oldfield. I find your opinion unfathomable. There are easily half a dozen worse than Platinum. Platinum isn't top 3, but its certainly not bottom 1. | Maybe I misunderstood the question from the OP, but after Platinium I lost interest for further Oldfield's work, and I was not the only one.
Edited by Svetonio - March 12 2014 at 06:23
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Nogbad_The_Bad
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Posted: March 12 2014 at 06:03 |
The OP is asking for the one album in an artists discography that ruins it. That means you think Platinum is the only bad album by Oldfield. I find your opinion unfathomable. There are easily half a dozen worse than Platinum. Platinum isn't top 3, but its certainly not bottom 1.
Edited by Nogbad_The_Bad - March 12 2014 at 06:03
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Svetonio
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Posted: March 12 2014 at 05:48 |
This is e.g. a far better crossover prog album (the term did not exist at that time, though) but extremely conspicuous as a bad album, although there are some strong tracks unlike Mr Oldfield's Platinium bullsh*tt
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Posted: March 12 2014 at 05:31 |
Svetonio wrote:
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Platinum....the perfect crossover album, one of Oldfield's prized jewel. Just shows how appalling opinions can be
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Chris S
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Posted: March 12 2014 at 03:57 |
What a totally negative thread...scraping the barrel stuff
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Svetonio
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Posted: March 12 2014 at 03:12 |
richardh wrote:
(...) and Oldfield managed his transition from epic instrumental works to a sleeker more band lead approach absolutely perfectly imo.
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"transition"? that's very bad believe me
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Tom Ozric
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Posted: March 12 2014 at 02:58 |
Triceratopsoil wrote:
Ocean is kind of a turd compared to Eloy's previous 5 albums. But some people are into turds, so that's ok.
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Why would you say that ??? You must study some pretty decent 'turds' to liken Eloy 's 'Ocean' to these random faecal dumpings .............
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richardh
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Posted: March 12 2014 at 02:51 |
Those last two choices are strange to me. Ocean is not my favourite Eloy album but a 'turd'?? I would rate it 3 stars. Ra is the only album I can't listen to by them.
Platinum is rather beautiful in my eys and Oldfield managed his transition from epic instrumental works to a sleeker more band lead approach absolutely perfectly imo.
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Svetonio
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Triceratopsoil
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Posted: March 11 2014 at 20:24 |
Ocean is kind of a turd compared to Eloy's previous 5 albums. But some people are into turds, so that's ok.
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Posted: March 11 2014 at 20:02 |
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CoL is a brilliant Crimson album imo.
For me it's Final Cut, but that's also because of the circumstances under which it got produced. I could never get into it, and that's coming from a huge Waters fan. I love 'Pros and Cons' and 'Amused to Death'. |
Yeah, The Final Cut, what a disappointment! No fan of Pros and Cons and Amused either, but I'm quite fond of Radio KAOS. Not many agrees with me on that one though.
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Posted: March 11 2014 at 18:33 |
irrelevant wrote:
Should be "Albums that ruin a good run", or sumfink. |
But then we'd only get Then There Were Three or Duke.
Edited by Horizons - March 11 2014 at 18:33
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Crushed like a rose in the riverflow.
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Posted: March 11 2014 at 18:03 |
I'm willing to accept the hyperbole in good sporting fun and game spirit what ho hey now ashtray's your uncle. Feedback by Spirit was a very shocking misstep for a band that had been nearly perfect to that point. They replaced 3 of their 5 members and were Spirit in name only. It's not rancid terrible, but ... Well maybe it was close. It only had the Spirit name on it because Cassidy was still in the band (RIP Cass <3)
Edited by HolyMoly - March 11 2014 at 18:04
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ole-the-first
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Posted: March 11 2014 at 17:43 |
'The ConstruKction Of Light' is a great album for me.
As for the topic, I say it's 'Serenades' by Anathema, because it's so lame and juvenile-sounding even in comparison with 'The Silent Enigma'.
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Guldbamsen
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Posted: March 11 2014 at 16:57 |
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bloodnarfer
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Posted: March 11 2014 at 16:53 |
Guldbamsen wrote:
Hahah ninja'd by bloodytapir! With the same acronym no less |
bloodytapir? oh I like it! I'm having a hard time thinking of any combo breaker albums. I don't usually think of bands in those terms.
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Guldbamsen
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Posted: March 11 2014 at 16:48 |
some fink eh?
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Posted: March 11 2014 at 16:35 |
Should be "Albums that ruin a good run", or sumfink.
Edited by irrelevant - March 11 2014 at 16:36
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