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Larks Tongues in Aspic
A Scarcity of Miracles
The Elements 2014 Tour Box
Starless and Bible Black
Islands
The Collectable King Crimson - Volume One
In the Court of the Crimson King
Lizard
Live at The Orpheum Theatre
Heavy Construction
The Great Deciever
Live at Shepherds Bush Empire, London, 1996
Red
Three of a Perfect Pair
The Construction of Light
The Power to Believe
Discipline
Thrak
Vroom
Space Groove
Live at Summit Studios, Denver 1972
In The Wake of Poseidon
Beat
Earthbound




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I dont know King Crimson discography so good, but I do know that I cant understand the low rating to "Starless and Bible Black" and the great rate to "Red" - the two album are so close in musical terms...

Love both, by the way.
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I feel that the reason that the album Red is preferred by most listeners to Starless and Bible Black is that they feel Red was more advanced and forward thinking, anticipating the next phase in the '80s.
 
My viewpoint is 73-74 was a higher peak than the '80s.  
 
On a tune-to-tune comparison:
 
I like Fractured better than Red:  It's complexity transports the mind, while red just rocks.
 
I like The Mincer better than Providence:   The mood of this improv and the applied lyrics....one of a kind!  
 
The updated Starless from the 2014 Tour takes that tune to another level. 
 
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Post Options Post Options   Thanks (0) Thanks(0)   Quote John McIntyre Quote  Post ReplyReply Direct Link To This Post Posted: July 23 2015 at 15:42
I've got about 35 King Crimson albums, of one sort or another, but I can't grade all of them. So I'll do the top few and the bottom few.
1) Red
2) The Night Watch (Live at Amsterdam)
3) The Great Deceiver (4-CD set)
4) USA (30th Anniversary Edition)
5) In the Wake of Poseidon
6) THRAK
7) B'BOOM
8) Absent Lovers (Live in Montreal)
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31) Summit Studios, Denver
32) The Construkction of Light
33) The Power to Believe (I don't)
34) Live at the Marquee - 1969
35) Earthbound
 
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Post Options Post Options   Thanks (0) Thanks(0)   Quote kenethlevine Quote  Post ReplyReply Direct Link To This Post Posted: July 23 2015 at 15:47
I'm very traditional  Tongue  I rate them pretty much in order of appearance.
1) in the court 
2) In the wake  
3 Lizard
4) Islands 
5) Larks Tongues, Starless and Bible Black, Red  - pick em

I didn't much listen to the stuff post 1980. I did have "Beat" and didn't like it


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Originally posted by agw801 agw801 wrote:

Larks Tongues in Aspic
A Scarcity of Miracles


Pretty bizarre seeing Scarcity rated so highly. I find it a very different cat to their discography, more like a Crimson influenced Jakko solo album. It's technically not a Crimson record.
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Post Options Post Options   Thanks (0) Thanks(0)   Quote agw801 Quote  Post ReplyReply Direct Link To This Post Posted: July 23 2015 at 22:36
No doubt you have a view point that resonates with most people, from reading many reviews of A Scarcity of Miracles.   But to my ears, this album sounds very much like a King Crimson work.   I love the mood this album produces, reminding me very much of songs like Islands, Book of Saturday, Exiles, and the Night Watch while at the very same time, being a different cat altogether....that is exploring an uncharted area of the musical map.  (I bet you find the saxophone texturing distracting, but I feel it adds one more layer of richness and depth.)  Indeed, this is a pretty sounding album, but the tone expresses angst, the lyrics are multi-dimensional and for me create an atmosphere of an Eden-esque landscape during a time when one hell of a storm is approaching, with wind and rain damage foreshadowing the probability of more to come.   
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Regardless of my opinion Fripp still classifies it as a ProjeKct rather than a full band release.
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1. Red
2. In the Court of the Crimson King
3. Larks' Tounges in Aspic
4. In the Wake of Posiedon
5. Islands
6. Discipline
7. Lizard
8. Starless and Bible Black
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Best
  1. Lizard
  2. Islands
  3. In The Wake of Poseidon
  4. Larks' Tongues In Aspic
  5. In The Court of The Crimson King
  6. Red
  7. Starless and Bible Black
  8. Discipline (the only one of these I definitely don't like)
Least best

I'm not familiar enough with their other studio material to rank it, and I chose not to include any live recordings, either.
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1. In the Wake of Poseidon
2. Lizard
3. In the Court of the Crimson King
4. Red
5. Islands
6. Larks' Tongues in Aspic
7. Discipline
8. Starless and Bible Black
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1. Lizard
2. Larks' Tongues in Aspic
3. Islands
4. Discipline
5. In the Court of the Crimson King
6. Starless and Bible Black
7. In the Wake of Poseidon
8. Red

#6 and #7 are interchangeable


Edited by mechanicalflattery - December 06 2016 at 14:58
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1. In The Wake Of Poseidon (10/10)
2. Lizard (9/10)
3. In The Court Of The Crimson King (9/10)
4. Red (9/10)
5. Larks' Tongues In Aspic (8/10)
6. Islands (8/10)
7. Discipline (8/10)
8. Starless And Bible Black (7/10)
9. The Power To Believe (7/10)
10. Beat (7/10)
11. Three Of A Perfect Pair (7/10)
12. THRAK (6/10)
13. The ConstruKction Of Light (5/10)
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1. Starless and Bible Black (9/10)
2. The Power to Believe (8/10)
3. The ConstruKction Of Light (7/10)
4. THRAK (7/10)
5. Red (6/10)
6. In the Wake of Poseidon (5/10)
7. Larks' Tongues in Aspic (4/10)
8. In the Court of the Crimson King (2/10)

The rest (1/10)
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1. Starless and Bible Black (IMO the album that sums up everything King Crimson were great for)
2. Islands
3. Lark's Tongues in Aspic
4. In the Court of the Crimson King
5. In the Wake of Poseidon
6. Red
7. Lizard
8. Discipline
9. Beat
10. Thrak
11. Three of a Perfect pair
12. The Power to Believe
13. The ConstruKction of Light
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Originally posted by Man With Hat Man With Hat wrote:

Discipline
LTIA
Lizard
The Power To Believe
Red
In The Court...
Three Of A Perfect Pair
In The Wake...
SABB
The ConstruKction...
Islands
Thrak
Beat

I still basically agree with this. I'd move Red up one and the middle bit (TOAPP, ITWOP, and SABB) are more or less interchangeable.
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Lark's
Red
Court
Discipline
S&BB
Lizard
Islands
Poseidon
Beat
Power to Believe
Thrak
Construkction*
3oaPP*

*Records I don't care much for




Edited by Larkstongue41 - December 06 2016 at 18:31
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Ranking KC albums is something I find hard to do, in fact I drew a blank, apart from a few exceptions. Generally I find most of them to be 4 star albums with a handful reaching 5 stars. And the 4 star albums would be 5 stars as well, if that handful didn't exist, so it's not a quality- but a comparison thing.

Here are my fivers:

- Lizard
- Islands
- Power to Believe
- Thrak
- Red

Yes, in that order.
 
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Discipline
Red
Three of a Perfect Pair
Beat
Lark's Tongues
Thrak
In the Court
Lizard
Absent Lovers
USA
Power to Believe
SBB
Poseidon
(...)

Surely, Earthbound is the worst album I ever owned so it'll easily win the "worst" contest.
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1. Lizard
3. ITCOTCK
5. Red
6. In the wake of Poseidon
 
Not a fan of KC.
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