Challenge to early Supertramp fans

That album is great despute what Allmusic state , Heavy jazz rock/progressive rock album, huuuge sounding , Better Days is soo good.

^hmmmm now we really are getting into an appreciation thread. Downstream is my personal Supertramp fave along with Child Of Vision. I have always liked Davies for contribution, notwithstanding the awesome work Hodgson and Davies did together Their debut is incredible, but Aries off IS is excellent too, love that album for all it's uneveness. I would also to have to say Canonball was one of the best tracks to come out of the 80's. While we are at it, has anyone persevered with Somethings Never Change or Slow Motion. If you are looking for typical Davies work with knockout swing jazz/blues plus good old crossover prog, then they are the bees knees

^ So, no 'Inbetween' then...........
...........so pardon me boys...........

Eye Of The Storm didn't ring a bell with me.......??

aginor wrote: I wont explayn antmy futher other the you search on PA on Roger Hodgson an look for studio album.....

Oh,, Hodgson solo album - didn't do much for me....... Commercial pop extended beyond its worth......... apologies for this one....

Edited by Tom Ozric - April 04 2014 at 05:36

Tom Ozric wrote: aginor wrote: I wont explayn antmy futher other the you search on PA on Roger Hodgson an look for studio album..... Oh,, Hodgson solo album - didn't do much for me....... Commercial pop extended beyond its worth......... apologies for this one............

Candyfish, I agree that everybody's got their own opinion and taste, and this must be respected, but I don't agree that opinions and tastes are not discussable. Anyway, we are discussing ours here, and I consider that very healthy.

Regarding all the appreciation comments about Supertramp, I agree with most of you. I think when you truly like a band, you don't really care for its members. Musicians and singers come and go, but the essence of the band generally remains. 

That's a great setlist. I didn't expect to see Surely, C'est Le Bon, The Awakening, Know Who You Are and A Soapbox Opera there. I hope he plays those ones when he comes back here.

"Shadow Song" is Hodgson singing - it just sounds a bit unusual because the verses are quite low for Hodgson's means. On later Supertramp records he would compose his melodies a few notes higher, resulting in a very different mixture of harmonics/overtones. Compare the vocals in the first verse of "Shadow Song" with the first verse of "Easy Does It" and "Rosie Had Everything Planned" and Hodgson's lead vocals in the (low) beginnings of the verses of "It's A Long Road" - the timbre is very much the same.

Richard Palmer-James most definitely doesn't sing lead vocals on "Shadow Song" ... he has a raspier voice which tends to break (or get a bit breathy) when he sings such high notes, such as in "Maybe I'm A Beggar".

And it doesn't sound like Rick Davies to me either; I don't suppose that Rick Davies would have been able to hide the growl in his voice (which he already had by that time) that perfectly. "Times Have Changed" on "Indelibly Stamped" could be a good comparison. I guess it's possible that Davies sang "Shadow Song" when the band performed it live - maybe to be able to maintain the fluid segue to the harmony vocal part - this might be what RPJ remembers. "Shadow Song" definitely sounds like a Davies ballad (like "Downstream" or "Poor Boy") but the slightly nasal and high-pitched timbre of the voice singing the song on the album is certainly Hodgson.


By the way;  this beautiful video has recently surfaced on the web: late-1969 Supertramp (aka Daddy) playing "All Along The Watchtower" in Munich, heavily inspired by The Nice.    http://www.frequency.com/video/rarely-seen-early-video-of-supertramp/141960346/-/5-2499

Edited by Einsetumadur - April 05 2014 at 18:18