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Topic: Jazz Poll Vol. III - 1963-64 Posted: June 13 2014 at 05:06
1964 is an exceptonal year for jazz and along with 1965 probably a peak of sorts. Not that it got downhill after that but in the mid-sixties clubs where shutting down people stopped buying jazz albums and in 1966 Blue Note-founders sold the label (and unreleased masterpieces are still in their shelves). By the end of the 60's rock music had taken over the spotlight completely until jazz had its fusion-comeback.
Many of you will probably vote for that Mingus-album, and is a beauty but not in my top six. First two here are top three for the whole decade:
1. Eric Dolphy - Out to Lunch
1. Grachan Moncur III - Evolution
3. Jackie McLean - Destination Out!
4. Herbie Hancock - Empyrean Isles
5. Andrew Hill - Judgment!
6. Herbie Hancock - Inventions & Dimensions
If the half an hour of exceptional bonus-stuff on the Chico Hamilton-reissue was part of the original album, it would have made my top three.
No Sun Ra-album for Mr. Hat to vote for this time.
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Posted: June 14 2014 at 14:50
Saperlipopette! wrote:
No Sun Ra-album for Mr. Hat to vote for this time.
Not cool man.
Now it's much harder.
Empyrean Isles and Out To Lunch are top notch. Cresent isn't bad when I'm in the mood for it.
I'll go for Out To Lunch this time though.
Dig me...But don't...Bury me I'm running still, I shall until, one day, I hope that I'll arrive Warning: Listening to jazz excessively can cause a laxative effect.
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Posted: June 15 2014 at 04:23
Saperlipopette! wrote:
If Destination Out is among the ones you don't know, it's got two moncur III-compositions I love as much as Evolution's titletrack.
just checked, don't have that McLean. picked up a couple of his when digging around for records with Moncur on them, but oddly enough not that one. i'll see if they have it at the store next time i'm in town.
Saperlipopette! wrote:
Ah Um is the Mingus-album for me but like Ayler and Coleman I
acknowledge the greatness and importance but I'm not their biggest fan.
i know what you mean, when i was living with musicians we had a lot of John Coltrane playing, which was great, but i never found myself personally reaching for his LP's.
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Posted: June 15 2014 at 13:42
I can't say I'm a huge fan of Ornette Coleman either. He was sometimes too focused on the binary reaction of "liberation" from the rules of Western theory. But I do appreciate what Ornette did in the sense that he "liberated" a lot of people to express themselves with fewer boundaries. Coltrane's free stuff is my favorite (particularly Om), because it fit his aesthetic of a spiritual search/pursuit. I haven't done too much exploration of free jazz, though, even though I like a lot of what I've heard. Angels and Demons at Play is the only Sun Ra album I've heard, and I've only heard samples of Cecil Taylor's stuff.
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Posted: June 16 2014 at 05:42
Polymorphia wrote:
I can't say I'm a huge fan of Ornette Coleman either. He was sometimes too focused on the binary reaction of "liberation" from the rules of Western theory. But I do appreciate what Ornette did in the sense that he "liberated" a lot of people to express themselves with fewer boundaries. Coltrane's free stuff is my favorite (particularly Om), because it fit his aesthetic of a spiritual search/pursuit. I haven't done too much exploration of free jazz, though, even though I like a lot of what I've heard. Angels and Demons at Play is the only Sun Ra album I've heard, and I've only heard samples of Cecil Taylor's stuff.
Sounds to me you should check out Pharoah Sanders (reccomendations will come in future polls)
Angels and Demons is a lovely album but it won't prepare you for Ra's sixties or seventies works. I'm a big fan of early Cecil (ca. 57-62) when he was way ahead of everyone else in a intellectual jazz as Modern art kind of way. But I can't listen to someone banging on a piano for two hours straight no matter how revolutionary others find it. From the mid-sixties and on Andrew Hill's approach to avantgarde/post bop piano is much more to my tastes.
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Posted: June 18 2014 at 08:48
^I know many enjoy this post-losing Coltrane-period of Miles too. Its alright I guess but I'm slightly bored uptil he got together his second great quartet. So many of the slightly less known jazzfolks doing so much more interesting things up to 65-66 imo.
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