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moshkito
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Posted: June 20 2014 at 13:56 |
SteveG wrote:
It may be a valid opinion but it maybe only your opinion. We cannot force Prog music to become more political with these discussions but perhaps we can learn something about the other members of the Prog fan community. It may not seem like a great accomplishment at the moment but perhaps it will in time. Keep the faith. |
Goodness ... aren't you the boss of all opinions!
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Music is not just for listening ... it is for LIVING ... you got to feel it to know what's it about! Not being told! www.pedrosena.com
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SteveG
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Posted: June 20 2014 at 13:59 |
moshkito wrote:
SteveG wrote:
It may be a valid opinion but it maybe only your opinion. We cannot force Prog music to become more political with these discussions but perhaps we can learn something about the other members of the Prog fan community. It may not seem like a great accomplishment at the moment but perhaps it will in time. Keep the faith. |
Goodness ... aren't you the boss of all opinions! |
I thought Hitler and the Guru were!!
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freyacat
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Posted: June 20 2014 at 22:56 |
Since 9/11, the Flower Kings have engaged the political world with their music on every album. "Unfold the Future" was a profound, spiritual plea for the world to shift course away from the "clash of civilizations" narrative. They just don't hit you over the head with it and say, "George W. Bush is an idiot." They have bigger fish to fry. "The truth will set you free. We will stand up to the lie. With this heart, bigger than America We will fight fire with fire, no more (Judas) kiss will seal the lie" I think that people wishing for apolitical music are perhaps not very aware of the political dimensions of even the little things in life. Wherever you have people expressing something, it's politics. Don't feel so threatened by it. It's just the birth pangs of humanity's dreams taking shape.
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sad creature nailed upon the coloured door of time
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progbethyname
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Posted: June 20 2014 at 23:16 |
Whatever the subject matter is I can handle it. A lot of political jargon in an album can really backfire, but if you can fit into a beautiful audio groove than you'll always get my attention. And yeah, even though it was a personal emotional diatribe for losing his father to the war, Roger Waters summed up his thoughts very well in The Final Cut. Not the best album sonically but lyric wise? Well, I think it's very well done. I can't tell you how many times I have said to people, "Hey, get your filthy hands of my desert!!"
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iluvmarillion
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Posted: June 23 2014 at 06:23 |
I'm on the politically conservative side of politics, but it's never prevented me enjoying the films of Jean Luc Goddard, so why should it prevent me enjoying good Prog music?
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Tanner
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Posted: June 23 2014 at 09:52 |
I never cared about political subject in music. There's always been so much leftist ideas in music and many leftist artist in the music industry. I hate the left wing movement (I hate the right too actually, but at least they have a strong sense of nationalism), but hearing a socialism idea in my music has never been a let down to me.
So I don't care, that's it.
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ProgSword
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Posted: June 23 2014 at 15:46 |
Only if it's well done. I really enjoyed Dream Theater's The Great Debate, and no one can deny the edginess of 21st Century Schizoid Man. Sometimes you get some real duds though, as if the politics are an afterthought (I'm looking at you The Mars Volta). Someone like Zappa though; the politics are up front and center, and it's perfect.
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twosteves
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Posted: June 23 2014 at 15:54 |
chopper wrote:
twosteves wrote:
Yours is no Disgrace is the best political song---Don't Kill the Whale---sort of okay. |
I've yet to work out the political significance of a purple wolfhound. |
Like most good political songs--Yours is no disgrace--doesn't hit you over the head with it's politics and like all Anderson, lyrics weird---but I know it was their anti-Vietnam war song---and what was cool about it---"silly human race" ---"on a sailing ship to nowhere..if the summer change to winter...." It didn't attack the soldiers (some anti-war songs did) but showed them as victims in their own right. Great political song. Generally speaking not into some song writer preaching to me about the world.
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