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octopus-4
Special Collaborator RIO/Avant/Zeuhl,Neo & Post/Math Teams Joined: October 31 2006 Location: Italy Status: Offline Points: 13396 |
Posted: June 18 2014 at 03:28 | ||
Why don't we delete all the subgenres at all? It would be nivce seeing us ZART and neo-proggers discussing about the inclusions
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Curiosity killed a cat, Schroedinger only half.
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Svetonio
Forum Senior Member Joined: September 20 2010 Location: Serbia Status: Offline Points: 10213 |
Posted: June 18 2014 at 04:05 | ||
I agree. Imo, ´Rock Progressiva Espagnol´sounds nice as a sub-genre.
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Dean
Special Collaborator Retired Admin and Amateur Layabout Joined: May 13 2007 Location: Europe Status: Offline Points: 37575 |
Posted: June 18 2014 at 05:36 | ||
Erm... no. If it had a name it would be, as the RYM link states, Prog Andaluz and specific to a unique style of Progressive Rock music that featured music unique to the Andalusia region of Spain just as Canterbury is regional and specific to unique form of Progressive Rock that was came from that specific town in Kent at a specific time in history. Like Canterbury, (and Zeuhl and RIO) the number of bands that could be considered Prog Andaluz would be very small and very select - not every Spanish Prog Rock band has the necessary characteristics that describe the style of music that some people call Prog Andaluz - that is, it should contain (as the RYM category states) influences of flamenco folk music unique to the Andalusia region of Spain (e.g. cante, toque and palmas). Spanish Prog or Rock Progresivo Español (if you want it in Spanish) would not describe a unique style of Progressive Rock music and therefore could not be called a subgenre, it would merely be a non-descriptive geographical category used to categorise Progressive Rock from Spain. Remember, not every Progressive Rock band from Italy is Rock Progressivo Italiano.
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progbethyname
Forum Senior Member Joined: July 30 2012 Location: HiFi Headmania Status: Offline Points: 7752 |
Posted: June 18 2014 at 11:53 | ||
Love it. Perfectly said to my ears. Damn Hobgoblins!!! |
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Gimmie my headphones now!!! 🎧🤣
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apps79
Special Collaborator Honorary Collaborator Joined: March 15 2007 Location: . Status: Offline Points: 1551 |
Posted: June 18 2014 at 12:16 | ||
sorry to say, but as of now the RPI genre in PA contains unrelated styles and bands that have nothing in common, both modern and old, except for the Italian vocals.Area and Le Orme have nothing in common soundwise.Even worse, Acqua Fragile are listed there, even if the sound like Genesis and sing in English, or Crystals, which sounded like a Led Zeppelin cover band.There are maybe a few bands also that sing in English and still are listed there, which I cant remember, So, at some point, this seems like a geographical genre and based on this anyone could suggest a ''geographical'' genre, I can't blame people for doing this, even more if the so-called Andalusian Prog/Rock for example has its own distinctive style. As I recall from my early entries here, RPI was basically Italian Symphonic Prog and symphonic-oriented bands, which limited pretty well the additions and was a better way to deal with the Italian bands and PA genres, IMHO.
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Dean
Special Collaborator Retired Admin and Amateur Layabout Joined: May 13 2007 Location: Europe Status: Offline Points: 37575 |
Posted: June 18 2014 at 12:50 | ||
No surprises there. Still the fact remains - not every Progressive Rock band from Italy is Rock Progressivo Italiano.
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dr wu23
Forum Senior Member Joined: August 22 2010 Location: Indiana Status: Offline Points: 20478 |
Posted: June 18 2014 at 16:50 | ||
Dean,
Where are all these 8,676 sub genres....? I'm obviously missing something.
Edited by dr wu23 - June 18 2014 at 16:51 |
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One does nothing yet nothing is left undone.
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Dean
Special Collaborator Retired Admin and Amateur Layabout Joined: May 13 2007 Location: Europe Status: Offline Points: 37575 |
Posted: June 18 2014 at 17:02 | ||
It's 8,678 now, two more artists have been added to the archive since yesterday. ...is that clue enough? |
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dr wu23
Forum Senior Member Joined: August 22 2010 Location: Indiana Status: Offline Points: 20478 |
Posted: June 18 2014 at 17:33 | ||
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One does nothing yet nothing is left undone.
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Slartibartfast
Collaborator Honorary Collaborator / In Memoriam Joined: April 29 2006 Location: Atlantais Status: Offline Points: 29625 |
Posted: June 19 2014 at 03:54 | ||
For anyone who hasn't visited jazzmusicarchives (an offshoot of this site). I recommend checking out their system. Also I find their approach at not being so hard line about what artists are added refreshing. |
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Released date are often when it it impacted you but recorded dates are when it really happened...
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Atavachron
Special Collaborator Honorary Collaborator Joined: September 30 2006 Location: Pearland Status: Offline Points: 64383 |
Posted: June 19 2014 at 04:05 | ||
^ Well, it is jazz
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"Too often we enjoy the comfort of opinion without the discomfort of thought." -- John F. Kennedy
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Dean
Special Collaborator Retired Admin and Amateur Layabout Joined: May 13 2007 Location: Europe Status: Offline Points: 37575 |
Posted: June 19 2014 at 04:09 | ||
quite
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Mind_Drive
Forum Senior Member Joined: September 06 2009 Location: Germany Status: Offline Points: 389 |
Posted: June 19 2014 at 06:20 | ||
plus they have a half star rating system!! i think ill change my musical preference
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It's just a ride... <3
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ExittheLemming
Forum Senior Member Joined: October 19 2007 Location: Penal Colony Status: Offline Points: 11415 |
Posted: June 19 2014 at 07:52 | ||
^ There's a few things that both JMA and (I think) MMA have which people have said they'd like to see on PA e.g. album tagging and half stars, However these are facilitated by the software and the wishes of the site owner and as far as I know, the database of PA would not be compatible for something like multi tagging irrespective of whether Max wished it implemented or not. I'm also not so sure multi tagging is the much trumpeted answer to all our prayers i.e. Reductio ad absurdum - it's not inconceivable that if opinion amongst the collaborators was sufficiently diverse, any given album could appear tagged to every available sub genre definition we have at our disposal (which completely undermines the purpose of definitions) Say what you like about the current systems for ratings and 'best fit' for a given sub genre, they force us to choose, and I reckon that's preferable to being able to view fog at higher resolutions
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Guldbamsen
Special Collaborator Retired Admin Joined: January 22 2009 Location: Magic Theatre Status: Offline Points: 23098 |
Posted: June 19 2014 at 13:36 | ||
"preferable to being able to view fog at higher resolutions"
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moshkito
Forum Senior Member Joined: January 04 2007 Location: Grok City Status: Offline Points: 16179 |
Posted: June 20 2014 at 14:02 | ||
You mad dog ... that is quite excellent and a beautiful read! Enjoyed it tremendously, up to and including some translations!
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Music is not just for listening ... it is for LIVING ... you got to feel it to know what's it about! Not being told!
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Atavachron
Special Collaborator Honorary Collaborator Joined: September 30 2006 Location: Pearland Status: Offline Points: 64383 |
Posted: June 20 2014 at 20:14 | ||
That's yer big boy right there |
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"Too often we enjoy the comfort of opinion without the discomfort of thought." -- John F. Kennedy
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Guldbamsen
Special Collaborator Retired Admin Joined: January 22 2009 Location: Magic Theatre Status: Offline Points: 23098 |
Posted: June 20 2014 at 20:18 | ||
Big enough to blow bubbles and vote.
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“The Guide says there is an art to flying or rather a knack. The knack lies in learning how to throw yourself at the ground and miss.”
- Douglas Adams |
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siLLy puPPy
Special Collaborator PSIKE, JRF/Canterbury, P Metal, Eclectic Joined: October 05 2013 Location: SFcaUsA Status: Offline Points: 14734 |
Posted: June 20 2014 at 20:43 | ||
i say every artist should get their own subgenre just as every human alive should get their own pronoun
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progbethyname
Forum Senior Member Joined: July 30 2012 Location: HiFi Headmania Status: Offline Points: 7752 |
Posted: June 20 2014 at 22:29 | ||
Man. I think mr. Steve nailed it with this post. I'm gonna say this is the post of the year thus far for me. Best part is he still managed to throw in a Beastie Boy reference in order to close of his point. Lol what a side splitter! |
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Gimmie my headphones now!!! 🎧🤣
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