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Topic: Fleetwood Mac - Rumours Posted: September 03 2014 at 05:35
jude111 wrote:
lazland wrote:
It is a bona fide classic from one of the finest bands ever to stride this earth. I will never tire of listening to an album which has become the soundtrack to many people of a generation struggling with relationships and life.
Agreed. I'd only add that the previous album, Fleetwood Mac, is just as good. (Monday Morning, Rhiannon, Over My Head, Say You Love Me, Landslide, World Turning - brilliant!) Those two albums are amazing.
There's stuff out there that could fool Genesis fans into thinking it's a song by Genesis; there's tracks that sound like Floyd and Led Zeppelin et al, but aren't. But I've never heard anything by anyone that sounded like Fleetwood Mac during that period that could fool a hardcore fan. Weird...
The Green years were groovy, but they really overplayed the Elmore James schtick.....the Peter Green-era BBC box set is living proof - some transcendent moments and a lot of the same old tired blues changes. The Lindsay years were wildy successful, but a bit too "cocaine slick" for me. They lost that earthy connection that the band always had.
Which brings us to the Welch years from Future Games to Heroes - by far my favorite era of the band. Time for a thread on Bob Welch & the Mac.
Edited by Intruder - August 29 2014 at 07:23
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Posted: August 28 2014 at 02:18
Blacksword wrote:
I find Fleetwood Mac to be hit and miss. Rumours is good but it's hardly earth shattering. Go your Own Way and The Chain are classics. The rest of the album has its moments but nothing grabs you by the nuts and swings you round the room. Don't Stop is drivel and makes me think of Bill Clinton. No need for that...
Digging the band more and more. Not a fan of British blues (unless it's mixed with folk), so I stick with their classic albums. You can really get to know an act better if you read their lyrics or watch their documentaries.
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Posted: August 28 2014 at 02:13
Rumours shows a band doing what they're best at and in the top of their game. The songs are great, vocals are all beautiful and the lyrics really match the mood of the music. I also always loved the bass in it.
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Posted: August 06 2014 at 23:26
lazland wrote:
It is a bona fide classic from one of the finest bands ever to stride this earth. I will never tire of listening to an album which has become the soundtrack to many people of a generation struggling with relationships and life.
Agreed. I'd only add that the previous album, Fleetwood Mac, is just as good. (Monday Morning, Rhiannon, Over My Head, Say You Love Me, Landslide, World Turning - brilliant!) Those two albums are amazing.
There's stuff out there that could fool Genesis fans into thinking it's a song by Genesis; there's tracks that sound like Floyd and Led Zeppelin et al, but aren't. But I've never heard anything by anyone that sounded like Fleetwood Mac during that period that could fool a hardcore fan. Weird...
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Posted: June 26 2014 at 12:46
Rumours is nice but Tusk is the classic in my opinion. Their finest achievement from that line-up and probably one of my top 25 rock albums of the decade.
I'm also with aka that Buckingham Nicks is a fab album. Had that one on vinyl. The story goes that Mick heard them recording that album in the studio and offered them the gig without even an audition.
Someday I hope to write a 5-star review of Tusk for our non-prog thread.
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Posted: June 26 2014 at 11:52
Rumours has one of the best side 1's in all rock music, but goes downhill afterwards. Love it, but wouldn't quite get 5 stars. The background behind it is one of the best show business stories as well. Deserves all of those sales
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Posted: June 26 2014 at 09:28
Penguin was definitely the least successful of the Mac albums released with Welch. Still there were some good songs on it. And I love all four of the other Welch-era albums. And you're right. I always forget about Penguin. Mystery to Me was the second post-Kirwan album.
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Posted: June 26 2014 at 09:07
The Doctor wrote:
HolyMoly wrote:
Prog Sothoth wrote:
The Doctor wrote:
I generally don't approve of music which becomes physically violent with me. Rumours is a great album, although at this point I've probably heard most of those songs a billion or so times. So it doesn't get played often any more. I'm more likely to play some of their other albums, their self-titled 10th album, Tusk, Mirage, and the albums from my favorite, but usually overlooked, era of the Mac,the Bob Welch years.
For the past few years my fav Mac album has been Bare Trees. Sorta rock, sorta pastoral, strange at times, but pretty cool.
I need to check out the post Green/pre Welch 'Kiln House' album someday...heard it's good.
Always liked Rumours, especially the first two tracks on side two.
Kiln House is quite different from anything else they did. It's kind of a mixed bag, honestly. It's dominated by Jeremy Spencer's 50's rock and roll pastiches. And then there's great classic blues rock like "Station Man" and "Tell Me All the Things You Do" weaved in between. Strange and cool, but inconsistent. About as different from "Then Play On" as it could have been.
All the Danny Kirwan songs on Kiln House are quite good. The Jeremy Spencer stuff is more hit or miss. Still worth hearing for the Kirwan stuff and a few of the Spencer songs. I like Bare Trees quite a bit, although Future Games has been my favorite Mac album for quite some time now. Mystery to Me, the first post-Kirwan album is also brilliant. While I'm not quite as much into the Green years, Then Play On was brilliant as they moved from a straight blues sound to more of a blues rock sound.
Mystery to Me is a favorite of mine - John McVie and Mick Fleetwood play particularly well on that one, and Bob Welch's songs on there are top shelf. I should point out, though, that "Penguin" was the first post-Kirwan album; I sometimes forget about it too. They had the Savoy Brown singer (Dave Walker) for just that one album, and he never really fit in. That album has its moments, though it strikes me as the work of a band that was drifting and looking for a new identity.
Edited by HolyMoly - June 26 2014 at 09:08
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Posted: June 26 2014 at 08:56
Rumours is one of my favorite albums, and it is definitely not prog! However, it so well written, and so creatively arranged and produced, that it's brilliant! Albums like Rumours are the reason why we should be as open-minded in our music consumption as we possibly can.
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Posted: June 26 2014 at 08:02
ExittheLemming wrote:
lazland wrote:
It is a bona fide classic from one of the finest bands ever to stride this earth. I will never tire of listening to an album which has become the soundtrack to many people of a generation struggling with relationships and life.
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Posted: June 25 2014 at 08:58
HolyMoly wrote:
Prog Sothoth wrote:
The Doctor wrote:
I generally don't approve of music which becomes physically violent with me. Rumours is a great album, although at this point I've probably heard most of those songs a billion or so times. So it doesn't get played often any more. I'm more likely to play some of their other albums, their self-titled 10th album, Tusk, Mirage, and the albums from my favorite, but usually overlooked, era of the Mac,the Bob Welch years.
For the past few years my fav Mac album has been Bare Trees. Sorta rock, sorta pastoral, strange at times, but pretty cool.
I need to check out the post Green/pre Welch 'Kiln House' album someday...heard it's good.
Always liked Rumours, especially the first two tracks on side two.
Kiln House is quite different from anything else they did. It's kind of a mixed bag, honestly. It's dominated by Jeremy Spencer's 50's rock and roll pastiches. And then there's great classic blues rock like "Station Man" and "Tell Me All the Things You Do" weaved in between. Strange and cool, but inconsistent. About as different from "Then Play On" as it could have been.
All the Danny Kirwan songs on Kiln House are quite good. The Jeremy Spencer stuff is more hit or miss. Still worth hearing for the Kirwan stuff and a few of the Spencer songs. I like Bare Trees quite a bit, although Future Games has been my favorite Mac album for quite some time now. Mystery to Me, the first post-Kirwan album is also brilliant. While I'm not quite as much into the Green years, Then Play On was brilliant as they moved from a straight blues sound to more of a blues rock sound.
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Posted: June 25 2014 at 07:42
The Dark Elf wrote:
I'll take Peter Green-era Mac, and you can have the rest.
dr wu23 wrote:
I have always preferred the Green years but then I bought the original lp's back then and my friend Bill and I were into most of the early British blues bands.
Agreed.
I only every liked The Chain from Rumours and then only because "the good bit" was used as the theme for BBC's coverage of F1.
It is a bona fide classic from one of the finest bands ever to stride this earth. I will never tire of listening to an album which has become the soundtrack to many people of a generation struggling with relationships and life.
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Posted: June 24 2014 at 23:15
I have always preferred the Green years but then I bought the original lp's back then and my friend Bill and I were into most of the early British blues bands. I usually play a compilation of early Mac things (with Green Manalishi on it..) and Then Play On, Kiln House, and sometimes Future Games and Bare Trees.
Haven't played the first 2 with Buckingham and Nicks for some time.....got tired of hearing them at various peoples houses and all over the radio back in the day. Nicks and Buckingham wrote some good songs but by then I was not into the new/altered sound of the band and moved on.
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