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Direct Link To This Post Posted: July 27 2014 at 17:55
Originally posted by Gerinski Gerinski wrote:

The discovery of GG is always a magic moment in a progger's life Tongue,

It's like I'm a born again progger! Wink


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Direct Link To This Post Posted: July 27 2014 at 18:48
Originally posted by Gerinski Gerinski wrote:

The discovery of GG is always a magic moment in a progger's life Tongue, you always think "WTF how had I missed them so far?" They were the less popular of the 1970's giants.
If you go with the PA ratings you can't go wrong, Free Hand, Power and the Glory, In A Glass House, Three Friends, Octopus... great stuff.

Watching the videos is a good way to get to know them better



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Originally posted by Gerinski Gerinski wrote:

The discovery of GG is always a magic moment in a progger's life Tongue, ...
'Twas not the case with me. They are not that easy to get into, are you kidding me? Embarrassed
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Direct Link To This Post Posted: July 27 2014 at 20:27
Took me a good decade to get it.
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Direct Link To This Post Posted: July 27 2014 at 20:32
^^^ Took me my first time listening to Giant to get it Tongue

Edited by ProgMetaller2112 - July 27 2014 at 20:34
“War is peace.

Freedom is slavery.

Ignorance is strength.”

― George Orwell, Nineteen Eighty-Four



"Ignorance and Prejudice and Fear walk Hand in Hand"- Neil Peart



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Direct Link To This Post Posted: July 27 2014 at 20:32
I adore Octopus but some of the other not so much.  Not a favorite, really have to be in the mood it. 

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Direct Link To This Post Posted: July 27 2014 at 20:45
My review of The Power and the Glory, I think, remains my favorite review that I've written here:

5 stars Graham Green published a novel of the same name in 1940 that loosely inspired this Gentle Giant work of genius. The concept of this particular album is the cyclical nature of politics and the Machiavellian manner in which people engage in them. The music (including the way the words are sung) reflects the lyrics in an amazing way. Derek Shulman, with his authoritative and boisterous vocals, speaks for the leader, while Kerry Minnear, quiet and docile, assumes the role of the unassuming common man. This highly consistent work represents Gentle Giant at their absolute finest.

"Proclamation" This was the first Gentle Giant song I ever heard, and the first time I heard it, I thought to myself, "What the hell am I listening to?" I was so dismayed that I had bought their previous album that same day! The truth about Gentle Giant for many people though, I suspect, is that their constant eccentricity makes them quite an acquired taste (no pun intended). For a young man with preferences of symphonic and heavy progressive rock, this album took a few listens to really appreciate and enjoy. The first thing one hears on this album is the cheering of a large crowd, setting the stage for a popular leader's ascension to power over a nation, which are exactly what the lyrics describe (from the perspective of the new chief). The music relies on piano, both electric and otherwise, a grooving bass and drum pairing, and some peculiar arrangements, including something like "Flight of the Bumblebee" in the middle. After a frightening and commanding vocal section, the music becomes hushed and a bit disturbing, until the final verse comes in, much faster in tempo than the two that came prior. The song ends with further applause- the coveted approval of the people.

"So Sincere" Naturally, this was the second Gentle Giant song I ever heard, and my reaction was even more pronounced then when I'd heard the previous song. I was positive that Gentle Giant was just some weird band I would never like; remarkably, this proved not to be the case, and even this strange little number (which I had skipped over multiple times in the past) grew on me. It begins with an awkward riff that relies heavily on strings. The vocal melody is even weirder, but is an integral element of the song, which is about the genuineness of the leader. It is telling that the word "sincere" is cut off at times to produce the phrase, "so sin." The guitar solo is highly enjoyable, highlighting Gary Green's crucial role in fitting in with such unusual arrangements.

"Aspirations" The only quiet and straightforward song on the album, "Aspirations" features quiet electric piano, acoustic guitar, and Kerry Minnear's soft, lovely singing voice. The mildness with which this song is performed reflects the meekness of the populace, entreating their leader to lead them to glory, and assuring him that they are behind him. They express their complete assurance that their leader will make all their "sorrows gone forever."

"Playing the Game" The crowning moment of the record, "Playing the Game" has a couple of recurring themes that use Gary Green's guitar to great effect, one of which is situated after each verse, and one that starts off the song and serves to bridge the verses. The ascending bass played during certain repetitions of the first theme is a good approach and lends variety to a musical motif that could have otherwise become stale. Kerry Minnear has a brief and quiet vocal part as the song fades out in the middle before a bass riff explodes into an excellent organ solo. In the lyrics, the leader asserts his invulnerability, pointing out that everything else exists for his purposes. Derek Shulman gives an energetic but controlled vocal performance, demonstrating both the authority's unbridled confidence in himself and his exacting strategies.

"Cogs in Cogs" Despite the leader's efforts, he confesses that his empty promises have not paved the way, and now the cogs of discontent are turning. The music is fast paced and frantic, reflecting the mounting panic of the person in charge. The piece is tightly orchestrated, and, along with the songs immediately before and after, was one that kept me returning to this album until it all "clicked" with me.

"No God's a Man" The music features some springy clean guitar and intriguing arrangements. It is another highlight. The lyrics describe the cyclical nature of power, how, even after the rise of a great and popular leader, the vacillation of the minds of the people can quickly result in a revolution. In typical Gentle Giant fashion, the vocals overlap one another, here giving the impression of the general population (many people out on the street, for instance) speaking about their current state of affairs and being in agreement.

"The Face" A Cajun feel accompanies the beginning of this piece, with violin and tambourine, and guitar and bass accompanying. The instrumental section is incredible, yet another example of Gentle Giant's creative greatness. Green gives a respectable guitar performance, also. The words describe a leader who realizes how unpopular his direction has become, but still urges his associates to "wear the face that is sorry."

"Valedictory" This is a heavy rock number that reprises the melody from the first song. The lyrics, however, reflect the opposite idea: The leader establishing his authority in "Proclamation" is pleading with his uprising people that "things must stay; there must be no change." The very end of the song is the sound of a tape player rewinding, perhaps inducing us to return to the beginning and listen to the album again- or maybe reminding us that whoever assumes power after this leader is deposed will experience the very same cycle.

(Bonus Track) "The Power and the Glory" Typically I do not review bonus tracks, but I'll make an exception here. This short piece carries the classic Gentle Giant sound, but is much less complex. According to one source, it didn't make the album because it had not yet been written (and Ray Shulman thought it was the worst of three "atrocious" "commercial" songs they'd written for the record company). Regardless of his opinion, the song is well worth having if you can get the 35th anniversary release.

Epignosis | 5/5 |

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Direct Link To This Post Posted: July 28 2014 at 15:07
The Blu Ray of The Power and The Glory is a must for all fans. Some nice original animation and a new mix from Steven Wilson (he hasn't changed it much though thankfully)
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Direct Link To This Post Posted: July 28 2014 at 15:23
Originally posted by richardh richardh wrote:

The Blu Ray of The Power and The Glory is a must for all fans. Some nice original animation and a new mix from Steven Wilson (he hasn't changed it much though thankfully)


Yes a must, what is special a part from the surround mix, there's also a instrumental stereo mix of the album.
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Direct Link To This Post Posted: July 28 2014 at 19:46
Originally posted by Epignosis Epignosis wrote:

My review of The Power and the Glory, I think, remains my favorite review that I've written here:...


   Altho the band maintains the concept was one of powerful ppl in general (popes, kings, etc) I cannot believe it a coincidence this was released at the end of the Watergate scandal.
Cogs in Cogs seems to points to Nixon by creating brilliant imagery of the complex, conniving, contriving mind at work.
Particularly No God's a Man seems like a song of condolence, some underling trying to tactfully help this megalomaniac understand that he's not God (No god's a man but then again.. no man's a god!)
The Face Step from the white(house?), step into the light (exposure)!
Valediction I always see in my mind's eye the president lumbering toward that helicopter with his famous "V" fingers hovering above him. And then away... Haaaaiiiiiiiilllllll)
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Direct Link To This Post Posted: August 01 2014 at 07:33
"The Power and The Glory" is without a doubt my favorite GG record. All of them are incredible, but that one remains my personal fave Smile.
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Direct Link To This Post Posted: August 01 2014 at 16:29
Maybe the most difficult band to 'get' for a newer prog fan but when it suddenly one day becomes crystal clear how brilliant they were, there's no turning back!
My Doc Told Me I Have Doggie Head.
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Direct Link To This Post Posted: August 02 2014 at 03:26
I found them hard going even as a long time prog fan. It is better to go back to the original albums and play them one at a time. I tried to take in too much too soon. Did not compute.Smile
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Direct Link To This Post Posted: August 02 2014 at 04:38
Just been listening to Acquiring The Taste, it's still my favourite GG album. 'Pantagruel's Nativity' is total and utter prog bliss.
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Direct Link To This Post Posted: August 02 2014 at 04:47
Yes Acquiring the Taste is my favourite because of it's strange atmosphere, i guess, waiting for the remix for that one
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Direct Link To This Post Posted: August 02 2014 at 05:31

Gentle Giant - School Days. Their best song, in my opinion.


http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=4-MdA0LPXj0
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Direct Link To This Post Posted: August 02 2014 at 12:10
I LOVE Gentle Giant! In my personal top 5 prog acts of all time, without question! Octopus, Glass House, TP&TG, Freehand etc. Hell, even Interview was awesome!
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Direct Link To This Post Posted: August 02 2014 at 12:53
I listened to Prog for about 10 years before I discovered Gentle Giant. I never saw a GG album in the second hand bin with all the Yes, Genesis, King Crimson and Camel albums I found there. So it wasn´t until I found PA, that I learned about them. A secret indeed...

As many others have suggested before me. Go through the disco in chronological order. The last couple of albums aren´t that exciting, but taking into consideration the absolute gems, that preceed them, I forgive GG :-)

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Direct Link To This Post Posted: August 02 2014 at 13:51
Originally posted by k3no444 k3no444 wrote:

I just found out about this band last night. My questions are: who is this band, why wasn't I told, and most importantly, why are they so awesome?  

Man, I still remember the first time I heard 'em... One of my mates' dad was cranking Alucard that day... sold instantly, though I must admit that 'Giant for a Day' was only so-so...



Originally posted by Dr. Occulator Dr. Occulator wrote:

Maybe the most difficult band to 'get' for a newer prog fan but when it suddenly one day becomes crystal clear how brilliant they were, there's no turning back!

Most of my friends found VdGG or Egg's 2nd Symphony a lot harder to get through than even the most obscure GG stuff. ;) 
Nothing against the brilliance of GG, though! There are still many car rides with Wreck or Plain Truth ripping through the speakers and me 'singing' (ridiculously moaning) along wih it.


Edited by JJMcBlaze - August 02 2014 at 13:58
Still we're driving onward, moving steady as a plane.
Moonbug cars flash past us as we head the other way.
Across the dyke of worry to a Nederlander dream

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Direct Link To This Post Posted: August 04 2014 at 17:43
Besides Rush(they're too good), The Giant are my favourite prog band. Keep in mind, though, this stuff is weird. You'll need to have a few albums to really get the feel of it and have a collection of songs you'll love. These are the best:

The Power And The Glory
In A Glass House
Three Friends
Gentle Giant
Free Hand
In'terview

Acquiring The Taste and Octopus are harder to get into. Although, they're popular with fans. Stay away from The Missing Piece, Civilian and Giant For A Day.
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Direct Link To This Post Posted: August 05 2014 at 01:14
^ I wouldn't agree that Octopus is harder to get into than In A Glass House.
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