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    Posted: July 25 2014 at 01:02
Well I shouldn't say WRONG places, but unexpected no doubt. I have made the recent realization that some prog songs will throw in a love lyric without warning into a non-love song (roughly 97% of prog music).

For example: the song Drip Drip by Comus has a part just before the chorus returns where they sing "I love you" very convincingly and in sharp contrast to all the lyrics that surround the line. Yet, it is still very passionate and believable.

What others do you know of where something similar happens? Do you think it works? Does the lack of repetitive love lyrics make the lone one stand out? Maybe even better than actual love songs? Well?? Do they?!?!


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Ian Anderson's "The Secret Language of Birds".
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Originally posted by ebil0505 ebil0505 wrote:

Well I shouldn't say WRONG places, but unexpected no doubt. I have made the recent realization that some prog songs will throw in a love lyric without warning into a non-love song (roughly 97% of prog music).

For example: the song Drip Drip by Comus has a part just before the chorus returns where they sing "I love you" very convincingly and in sharp contrast to all the lyrics that surround the line. Yet, it is still very passionate and believable.

What others do you know of where something similar happens? Do you think it works? Does the lack of repetitive love lyrics make the lone one stand out? Maybe even better than actual love songs? Well?? Do they?!?!
Do you include love for something, not just someone?
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Hi,
 
"A Way Out" by Peter Hammill ... one of my favorite songs ever by anyone. Also another one of his in the album "Over", the song about "Alice" and "On Tuesdays She Does Yoga", they don't say it ... but it doesn't need to!
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^ Glad you mentioned Over. That reminds me - "Time Heals" ("I love you, I love you, I wish I was dreaming"). Really, pretty much the whole album is about Peter's severed relationship with his past love, even though most of the songs on the album do not feature an explicit love lyric.

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Originally posted by Dayvenkirq Dayvenkirq wrote:


Originally posted by ebil0505 ebil0505 wrote:

Well I shouldn't say WRONG places, but unexpected no doubt. I have made the recent realization that some prog songs will throw in a love lyric without warning into a non-love song (roughly 97% of prog music).

For example: the song Drip Drip by Comus has a part just before the chorus returns where they sing "I love you" very convincingly and in sharp contrast to all the lyrics that surround the line. Yet, it is still very passionate and believable.

What others do you know of where something similar happens? Do you think it works? Does the lack of repetitive love lyrics make the lone one stand out? Maybe even better than actual love songs? Well?? Do they?!?!
Do you include love for something, not just someone?


I suppose I would, yes.


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Rush seems to have songs like that.
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Originally posted by ebil0505 ebil0505 wrote:

For example: the song Drip Drip by Comus has a part just before the chorus returns where they sing "I love you" very convincingly and in sharp contrast to all the lyrics that surround the line. Yet, it is still very passionate and believable.


Well, it IS a love song - albeit one sung to a corpse.....

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Post Options Post Options   Thanks (0) Thanks(0)   Quote Michael678 Quote  Post ReplyReply Direct Link To This Post Posted: July 26 2014 at 15:01
i thought i heard something like "I Love You" when i was listening to Camel's Lady Fantasy (cause its kind of THAT popular around here), although that's probably part of the point of the song's lyrics maybe. i could be wrong, though.
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Post Options Post Options   Thanks (0) Thanks(0)   Quote AreYouHuman Quote  Post ReplyReply Direct Link To This Post Posted: July 29 2014 at 22:50
Originally posted by Michael678 Michael678 wrote:

i thought i heard something like "I Love You" when i was listening to Camel's Lady Fantasy (cause its kind of THAT popular around here), although that's probably part of the point of the song's lyrics maybe. i could be wrong, though.

Not only IS that the line in Lady Fantasy, it’s the last one.

Lost by VDGG also has I Love You as the last line.
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A lot a Marillion songs use "love"

Genesis "Supper's Ready" it is actually a love song if you check the lyrics

Yes "And You And I"

Some Opeth songs are love songs


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I may be a minority here, but I don't mind prog songs being about love at all. Love is after all a very central topic for all of us, and much of what's going on in our lives is about love, or the lack thereof.
What turns me off, and what I don't like to hear, are the cliché lyrics about love, without deeper meaning or feeeling, that are everywhere in mainstream pop.
So welcome to love in prog music, but please try to say something original.
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Originally posted by Michael678 Michael678 wrote:

i thought i heard something like "I Love You" when i was listening to Camel's Lady Fantasy (cause its kind of THAT popular around here), although that's probably part of the point of the song's lyrics maybe. i could be wrong, though.


Well, as far as I understand "Lady Fantasy" is a love song. Something about a woman the singer can't get. I guess I would need to pay better attention to the lyrics. Very beautiful song, though.
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Originally posted by Dayvenkirq Dayvenkirq wrote:

^ Glad you mentioned Over. That reminds me - "Time Heals" ("I love you, I love you, I wish I was dreaming"). Really, pretty much the whole album is about Peter's severed relationship with his past love, even though most of the songs on the album do not feature an explicit love lyric.
 
I always thought that "A Way Out", is insane and totally with it. We have so many excuses for everything ... anything ... and in the end, it was about one line ... we never said it!
 
And now you know why I am not ashamed of my feelings, even in this board. You either "care", and "love", or you don't!
 
Originally posted by Old_Wise_Owl Old_Wise_Owl wrote:

I may be a minority here, but I don't mind prog songs being about love at all. Love is after all a very central topic for all of us, and much of what's going on in our lives is about love, or the lack thereof.
What turns me off, and what I don't like to hear, are the cliché lyrics about love, without deeper meaning or feeeling, that are everywhere in mainstream pop.
So welcome to love in prog music, but please try to say something original.
 
I just think the cynicism, about the word "love", is insane. So a metal band can't sing about "love" or use that word because they are "man-ly" bands, and they don't do this kind of stuff?
 
Crazy ... that we now define music by their ego and cynicism? Not the music itself?
 


Edited by moshkito - August 05 2014 at 09:03
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I'm not a big fan of simple love song lyrics  in general and I prefer clever  lyrics that talk about love in a more sophisticated manner or with metaphor.
Having said that I'm not against love......but if you are going to toss the word into a song it should at least have some bearing on the overall meaning of the lyrics which I would think would have something to do with....love.
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Tull's "Wond'ring Aloud" is as beautiful a love song as you'll hear without the word "love" said once.
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Moody Blues - Question, for example.

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Post Options Post Options   Thanks (0) Thanks(0)   Quote Michael678 Quote  Post ReplyReply Direct Link To This Post Posted: August 10 2014 at 19:57
Originally posted by AreYouHuman AreYouHuman wrote:

Originally posted by Michael678 Michael678 wrote:

i thought i heard something like "I Love You" when i was listening to Camel's Lady Fantasy (cause its kind of THAT popular around here), although that's probably part of the point of the song's lyrics maybe. i could be wrong, though.

Not only IS that the line in Lady Fantasy, it’s the last one.

Lost by VDGG also has I Love You as the last line.

yeah, i thought so.
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Originally posted by threaz threaz wrote:

Moody Blues - Question, for example.

That is a song within a song which quite appeals to me

Another 'song' I've always thought of having a similar structure is the Four Seasons - Silver Star

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