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richardh
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Posted: November 03 2014 at 01:37 |
Par Lindh is too often overlooked. Nice to have another supporter on board.
Kayak's first four albums are the best (up to Last Encore) , alll 4 star albums at least with the two I mentioned being masterpeices imo. Also Kayak II and Royal Bed Bouncer have both been reissued recently.
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Rick Robson
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Posted: November 02 2014 at 18:40 |
Hey thanks Richardh! And I'm just reminding that you were the only one here who suggested the awesome Par Lindh Project! Btw I've listened to that YouTube link of Kayak - 'Relics From A Distant Age' - man you're damn right about it - a stunning piano playing! And I've just known some Kayak's pretty cool music - as you suggested, I just listened to 'Trust In The Machine' and 'They Get To Know Me' (both from Kayak II), awesome tracks , and the final parts of them just impressed me even more!, I'm gonna check them out asap too. Great suggestion again!
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richardh
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Posted: November 02 2014 at 02:44 |
Great list Rick.
You also should check out the Dutch band Kayak. Royal Bed Bouncer and Kayak II are the best starting points. They also have a new album coming out soon which I can't wait to get my hands on.
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Rick Robson
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Posted: November 01 2014 at 22:06 |
Second edition of my actualized Prog Rock Artists Masterpiece List: Emerson, Lake & Palmer - Brain Salad Surgery Emerson, Lake & Palmer - Trilogy Keith Emerson - The Keith Emerson Band: Three Fates Project Steve Hackett - Metamorpheus Steve Hackett - Spectral Mornings Steve Hackett - A Midsummer Night's Dream Steve Hackett - Beyond The Shrouded Horizon The Nice - Five Bridges Par Lindh Project - Gothic Impressions Stephen Caudel - Wine Dark Sea Pink Floyd - Atom Heart Mother Locanda delle Fate - Forse Le Lucciole Non Si Amano Piů Le Orme - Felona e Sorona Le Orme - Collage Triumvirat - Spartacus Triumvirat - Mediterranean Tales Triumvirat - Illusions On A Double Dimple Camel - Dust and Dreams Camel - The Snow Goose Vangelis - The Music of Cosmos Rick Wakeman - The Six Wives Of Henry VIII Aphrodite's Child - 666 The Moody Blues - Days Of Future Passed Eloy - Silent Cries and Mighty Echoes Neuschwanstein - Battlement Unreal City - La Crudelta Di Aprile Still very much to know from the classics, the first ten in my whishlist that I haven't yet dig into: Gentle Giant, Van Der Graaf Generator, Tangerine Dream, Banco Del Mutuo Soccorso, Quella Vecchia Locanda, Goblin, King Crimson, Palepoli, Franco Battiato, Pekka Pohjola, and still know little of Keith Emerson's solo work, The Nice, The Enid, Par Lindh Project, and Pell Mell.
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Drumstruck
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Posted: September 22 2014 at 21:40 |
About the only ones I'd call masterpieces are: Gong - YOU Magma - Mekanik Destruktiw Kommandoh Zappa - Joe's Garage
But there are plenty of great albums: Zappa - everything else he did Gong - everything else they did Magma - everything else they did Jefferson something - Blows Against the Empire Curved Air - Air Cut Captain Beyond - Captain Beyond Jethro Tull - Thick As A Brick Hawkwind - Warrior On The Edge Of Time Genesis - Foxtrot Rennaisance - Turn Of The Cards Hadouk Trio - Shamanimal Yes - Close to the Edge Starcastle - Fountains Of Light Amon Duul II - Wolf City Ozric Tentacles - pick any one - they're all good If - If (perhaps not progressive?) lots more......
Edited by Drumstruck - September 22 2014 at 21:41
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Argonaught
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Posted: September 15 2014 at 23:33 |
Michael678 wrote:
Yes - Fragile (no one else took it so)Rush - Hemispheres (some people here already chose the 2 big ones in their discography so i went with this one) King Crimson - In the Court of the Crimson King (considered to be the first official prog album) Pink Floyd - The Dark Side of the Moon (really...) The Beatles - Sgt. Pepper's Lonely Hearts Club Band (prog magazine considered it on the ballet, unless ALOT of people voted as one as it was kind of high on the results; plus its my favorite ever, did i already say that or is that just me?? xD) Genesis - A Trick of the Tail (anyone disagree?) |
Fragile: I guess you beat me to the punch :) .. and I agree that the DSOTM is the Pink Floyd greatest masterpiece, although I consider the Gilmour-era AMLOR esthetically more refined.
I'd like to better understand the concept of ITCOCK being "considered" the first official prog album .. how about Sgt. Pepper you mentioned 2 lines below? And the likes of Procol Harum and Moody Blues.
Since you mentioned Genesis: I enjoy some of the great music they made in the 70s and into the 80s, but I don't particularly like any of their full albums.
Now then, my Top 10 chef d'oeuvre of "prog" (less fusion) list be ..
Fragile Viljans Öga Red DSOTM (Waters PF) AMLOR (Gilmour PF) Snow Goose FOABP Fish Out of Water Scheherezade Sgt. Pepper In no particular order
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Meegan
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Posted: September 15 2014 at 21:46 |
I know I'm about a month late but what the hell
IQ-The Road of Bones Rush-Hemispheres Dream Theater-Images and Words Opeth-Stillife The Mars Volta-De-loused In The Comatorium Vienna Circle-White Clouds Spock's Beard-Snow Anathema-Judgement Maudlin Of The Well-Part The Second Karnivool-Sound Awake Airbag-All Rights Removed
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dodur
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Posted: September 15 2014 at 17:59 |
Yes - CTTE and Going For The One King Crimson - In the Court and Red Genesis - Foxtrot and Selling England Magma - MDK VDGG - Pawn Hearts PFM - Stati Di Immaginazione and Per Un Amico Gentle Giant - Octopus Pink Floyd - Wall, DSOTM, WYWH and Animals Somewhat risky claims to masterpiecedom on this site: Cardiacs - Sing To God Spratleys Japs - Pony
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PrognosticMind
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Posted: September 15 2014 at 15:22 |
Frank Zappa - One Size Fits AllCaptain Beefheart - Trout Mask Replica
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"A squid eating dough in a polyethylene bag is fast and bulbous. Got me?"
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WrytXander
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Posted: September 15 2014 at 11:24 |
Rick Robson wrote:
I find you pointed out very well the presence of those prog elements in their works, but in my point of view just a few prog-related songs are not enough to consider them as being part of a whole prog albums. One could also argue the same about 'Tommy' by The Who, or Queen's debut album, or 'Revolver' by The Beatles. And if we drill further we find out other very well known bands and artists showing clear prog influences, Black Sabbath and David Bowie for instance, and also from the 80's - Radiohead. But none I would call 'prog rock' bands (or artists) as they have never released a single real prog album imo.
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This really is a topic that could be written on for hours... It also really is open for debate. There are those who call those particular albums prog, and then there are ones who don't. Sure, none of them are prog artists, but that is not to say they didn't do prog. Every instrumentally capable band from the 70s has had their share of prog, in my opinion, and some of them made a song or two that could be called "prog", while some had so much prog in their albums that those may as well be called prog albums.
Tommy was, in my opinion, a prog album just like Quadrophenia; I just didn't mention it because I think Quadrophenia is a truer masterpiece. The other albums you mentioned, just like Led Zeppelin's Houses of the Holy, are rock albums that had some prog in them (though Revolver is mostly psychedelic, really).
I'll open up a forum thread about this, since there does seem to be a lot of potential for a debate and I'd like to hear others' opinions on the matter.
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DreamInSong
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Posted: September 14 2014 at 13:04 |
I'll try to limit myself one per artist, otherwise I'll just list every Steven Wilson album Gazpacho - Night Porcupine Tree - Fear of a Blank Planet No Man - Together We're Stranger maudlin of the Well - Bath/Leaving Your Body Map Agalloch - Marrow of the Spirit Ulver - Perdition City Marillion - Marbles Dream Theater - Images and Words Riverside - Second Life Syndrome Pink Floyd - Animals Ayreon - Human Equation Pain of Salvation - Perfect Element Anathema - Weather Systems Ones I'm loving right now, but it's too soon to tell if they'll stand the test of time. iamthemorning - Belighted Musk Ox - Woodfall It's been a while since I seriously listened to prog, and since I've been to this site. I'm sure I'll post more as I think of them.
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Horizons
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Posted: September 14 2014 at 10:21 |
Archeus wrote:
peril912 wrote:
Here's my list which doesn't include crap stuff like Discipline.
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How is Discipline crap?
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You can look at his post in general and come to the conclusion he has no idea what he's talking about.
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Crushed like a rose in the riverflow.
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Archeus
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Posted: September 14 2014 at 05:22 |
peril912 wrote:
Here's my list which doesn't include crap stuff like Discipline.
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How is Discipline crap?
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midnightmadness
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Posted: September 14 2014 at 02:40 |
GENESIS - Wind & Wuthering GRYPHON - Midnight Mushrumps GENTLE GIANT - Acquiring the Taste CAMEL - Moonmadness MAHAVISHNU ORCHESTRA - The Inner Mounting Flame JETHRO TULL - A Passion Play MIKE OLDFIELD - Ommadawn KING CRIMSON - Islands YES - Going For the One STEVE HACKETT - Voyage of the Acolyte EGG - Egg CARAVAN - In the Land of Grey and Pink PINK FLOYD - Animals ANTHONY PHILLIPS - The Geese and the Ghost
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Rick Robson
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Posted: September 13 2014 at 17:24 |
WrytXander wrote:
Rick Robson wrote:
WrytXander wrote:
Led Zeppelin and Queen have had prog songs, but no real prog albums.
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Agreed, but did you forget that The Beatles, The Who and Metallica have never had real prog albums or is just your thought? Because it's what I feel about these bands, pretty talented by the way. |
I guess it is just my thought, but I really do believe those 3 albums are prog albums.
Quadrophenia had "Quadrophenia", "Doctor Jimmy" and "The Rock", as well as being a concept album.
Abbey Road had one of the first prog medleys ever, along with tracks like "I Want You", "Because" and "Here Comes the Sun" that had prog elements.
...And Justice for All had multiple song segments with 7/4 time signature, as well as many shifts in time and tone, random stopping and going, etc.
And looking back, I guess Queen II could be considered a prog release, what with the multiple concepts, fictional lyrics and individual songs like "March of the Black Queen", "White Queen", "The Fairy Feller's Master-Stroke" etc.
Feel free to put up an argument; this is a topic that I enjoy discussing. |
I find you pointed out very well the presence of those prog elements in their works, but in my point of view just a few prog-related songs are not enough to consider them as being part of a whole prog albums. One could also argue the same about 'Tommy' by The Who, or Queen's debut album, or 'Revolver' by The Beatles. And if we drill further we find out other very well known bands and artists showing clear prog influences, Black Sabbath and David Bowie for instance, and also from the 80's - Radiohead. But none I would call 'prog rock' bands (or artists) as they have never released a single real prog album imo.
Edited by Rick Robson - September 13 2014 at 17:25
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WrytXander
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Posted: September 13 2014 at 15:36 |
Rick Robson wrote:
WrytXander wrote:
Led Zeppelin and Queen have had prog songs, but no real prog albums.
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Agreed, but did you forget that The Beatles, The Who and Metallica have never had real prog albums or is just your thought? Because it's what I feel about these bands, pretty talented by the way. |
I guess it is just my thought, but I really do believe those 3 albums are prog albums.
Quadrophenia had "Quadrophenia", "Doctor Jimmy" and "The Rock", as well as being a concept album.
Abbey Road had one of the first prog medleys ever, along with tracks like "I Want You", "Because" and "Here Comes the Sun" that had prog elements.
...And Justice for All had multiple song segments with 7/4 time signature, as well as many shifts in time and tone, random stopping and going, etc.
And looking back, I guess Queen II could be considered a prog release, what with the multiple concepts, fictional lyrics and individual songs like "March of the Black Queen", "White Queen", "The Fairy Feller's Master-Stroke" etc.
Feel free to put up an argument; this is a topic that I enjoy discussing.
Edited by WrytXander - September 13 2014 at 15:39
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Archeus
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Posted: September 13 2014 at 05:49 |
The albums I list do not necessarily constitute my favourites, but are
for me the zenith of the bands' creativity and musical progression.
Agalloch - The Mantle Alcest - Souvenirs d'un Autre Monde Anathema - Weather Systems The Beatles - Sgt. Pepper's Lonely Hearts Club Band David Bowie - The Rise and Fall of Ziggy Stardust and the Spiders From Mars Dream Theater - Metropolis Pt.2: Scenes From a Memory Explosions in the Sky - The Earth Is Not a Cold Dead Place Genesis - Selling England by the Pound Jehtro Tull - Thick as a Brick Marillion - Misplaced Childhood Mike Oldfield - Tubular Bells Muse - Absolution My Dying Bride - Songs of Darkness, Words of Light Opeth - Still Life Queen - Queen II Sigur Rós - ( ) Tool - Lateralus Yes - Tales From Topographic Oceans
Not on PA, but prog in my book:
Amorphis - Tales From the Thousand Lakes Arcade Fire - Reflektor The Beach Boys - Pet Sounds
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Rick Robson
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Posted: September 13 2014 at 05:00 |
WrytXander wrote:
Led Zeppelin and Queen have had prog songs, but no real prog albums.
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Agreed, but did you forget that The Beatles, The Who and Metallica have never had real prog albums or is just your thought? Because it's what I feel about these bands, pretty talented by the way.
Edited by Rick Robson - September 13 2014 at 05:02
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WrytXander
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Posted: September 13 2014 at 03:57 |
I'll just do 1 per artist.
King Crimson - In the Court of the Crimson King Pink Floyd - Dark Side of the Moon Genesis - Selling England by the Pound Rush - Moving Pictures Jethro Tull - A Passion Play Camel - Mirage Yes - Close to the Edge ELP - Brain Salad Surgery Van der Graaf Generator - Godbluff Mike Oldfield - Tubular Bells Caravan - In the Land of Grey and Pink Gentle Giant - In a Glass House Dream Theatre - Scenes from a Memory 2 The Beatles - Abbey Road The Who - Quadrophenia Metallica - ...And Justice for All
Led Zeppelin and Queen have had prog songs, but no real prog albums.
Other artists I'm not familiar enough to list.
Also, yes, my list is very regular...
Edited by WrytXander - September 13 2014 at 03:59
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Prog_Traveller
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Posted: September 10 2014 at 21:36 |
Some of my all time favorites: Banco-...di terra Camel-snowgoose Emerson, Lake and Palmer- same Mahavishnu Orchestra- Birds of Fire Ozric Tentacles- Jurassic Shift Jon Anderson-Olias of Sunhillow Porcupine Tree- Lightbulb Sun Gentle Giant- Octopus Yes-Relayer Genesis-Selling England by the Pound Kansas-Leftoverture King Crimson- Lark's tongues in Aspic Camel- Dust and Dreams Peter Gabriel-same (1st ie car) Rick Wakeman- Myths and Legends of King Arthur.... Rush- Hemispheres Yes- Close to the Edge
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