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Posted: June 29 2016 at 06:44
zwordser wrote:
Annie, but only a little better than John.
I guess you mean you prefer Annie by only a little bit over Jon? Because there is no way to say if one singer is better than the other as such and if we are talking technically, then Annie is so much better there isn't even much of a comparison.
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Posted: June 29 2016 at 06:52
ARE YOU f**kING SERIOUS ?????????? MORRISON = good voice, inspired prose... ANDERSON = pixie-like voice, fitting for the music of Yes ANNIE - Perfection. Just a gorgeous ANGEL. Perfect voice for perfect music (just like Christina Booth with Magenta.....).........
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Posted: June 29 2016 at 07:08
^ Dude, do you like Magenta ?? Give them a go. My first taste was The Twenty-Seven Club ( on vinyl) and it brought me to tears...........(all their albums should be available as vinyl......). Christina is a modern-day Annie. I'd say that the music of Magenta is mostly inspired by Yes, but really, perhaps Yes-meets-Renaissance............ I'm in love with Christina !
While Anderson's voice works well for Yes, I probably wouldn't enjoy his vocals in any other way. Haslam's voice is able to stand alone though imo. Voted her.
Jim Morrison beats all of them, but since this is about symphonic, he wouldn't fit for that.
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Posted: June 30 2016 at 12:54
rogerthat wrote:
zwordser wrote:
Annie, but only a little better than John.
I guess you mean you prefer Annie by only a little bit over Jon? Because there is no way to say if one singer is better than the other as such and if we are talking technically, then Annie is so much better there isn't even much of a comparison.
Yes, I prefer Annie but still Like Jon. And right, there is probably no way to say who's better, but at least polls like this give some idea of who people prefer.
As to your last part, don't quite understand what you're saying. Sounds like you prefer Annie for some "technical" reason.
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Posted: June 30 2016 at 16:26
I like Annie's voice much better but I also like the Renaissance compositions and arrangements better. So if Annie sang for Yes and Jon for Renaissance, I might have a tough time choosing. Annie it is
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Posted: June 30 2016 at 16:27
rogerthat wrote:
I don't know that there's any archetypal symph prog voice as such because Lake, Anderson, Gabriel, Latimer all sound so different from each other. So it would be hard to tell whose voice between the two suits symph prog better.
However, Annie's singing evokes Anderson's at times, specifically where the song required it. It is particularly strong in this track:
It is again noticeable in the verse of Jekyll and Hyde.
I don't know if Jon would be able to do vice versa though...like say evoke the kind of bold, emphatic singing Annie came up with on Touching Once. In fact I am not sure if he can sing in any style other than the one he's used on Yes and he sings only in one style on Yes. He seems to be a far less versatile vocalist. By that token alone, Annie would fit the sound of many more bands than Jon. Easy vote for Annie Haslam.
I do love Morrison but his voice is not meant for symph prog.
Yes that Intergalactic Touring Band song does seem in the style of Jon Anderson.
I admit to a soft spot for that album; it's a guilty pleasure, especially the closer sung by Meatloaf
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Posted: June 30 2016 at 20:27
zwordser wrote:
As to your last part, don't quite understand what you're saying. Sounds like you prefer Annie for some "technical" reason.
No, no, no, I am just saying the only aspect in which we can actually compare singers at all in a somewhat objective way (which in theory doesn't/ought not to have anything to do with preferences but where sometimes people will move the facts this way and that to make their favourite singer 'win') is how technically accomplished they are. Again, one singer being technically better than the other doesn't necessarily make them better as such; there are only individual preferences at the end of the day. Annie is technically way better than Jon, be it in terms of range or power or control, dynamics, phrasing, you name it. Being that this is Wimbledon season, would be like pitting Marcus Willis against Federer. She is more 'equipped'. Of course the listener may still prefer what Jon does with his capabilities over Annie and that's absolutely fine (which is way a musician/band/album can never be better than another in the unqualified sense).
Sorry if this is all splitting hairs but too much time on the interwebs has turned me into a pedant.
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Posted: June 30 2016 at 20:31
kenethlevine wrote:
I like Annie's voice much better but I also like the Renaissance compositions and arrangements better. So if Annie sang for Yes and Jon for Renaissance, I might have a tough time choosing. Annie it is
That is assuming of course that Jon is able to sing all those songs because he wouldn't be able to. Would give him a good chance with I Think of You and Captive Heart, maybe Closer Than Yesterday too and that's pretty much it. Of course Michael Dunford could have written different songs for Jon with Renaissance-style arrangements since this is all hypothetical anyway. Would have been interesting. Jazz guys shuttle in and out of bands. Rock people should do that sometimes too, just swap singers/musicians at some concerts. Of course the diehards will cry heresy.
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Posted: June 30 2016 at 22:27
rogerthat wrote:
kenethlevine wrote:
Yes that Intergalactic Touring Band song does seem in the style of Jon Anderson.
I admit to a soft spot for that album; it's a guilty pleasure, especially the closer sung by Meatloaf
That album never made much of an impression on me. I will listen to that Meatloaf song again one of these days.
objectively (there is that word again) it's not a good album
but it's so silly and at the same time the story line has so much sadness. I heard it at the time of release and it was like a death cry for the overblown concept album
I'm not even a fan of Meatloaf but his "Keeper Keep Us" is nothing if not anthemic, and it works for me.
The Arthur Brown track is kind of fun, about a zoo where even people and "First Landing" soundsa like another Jon Anderson styled song, very uplifting. The Status Quo r=track is fun too. The only one I really don't like is the Ben E King track
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