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Originally posted by Nogbad_The_Bad Nogbad_The_Bad wrote:

Gnosis has a ranking system where their 110 or so 'experts' rate albums so you get more of a curated ranking. If I filter that down to the top prog albums with lots of ratings (>30) I get a top 20 of:-

1. King Crimson - Larks Tongues In Aspic
2. PFM - Per Un Amico
3. Banco - Darwin!
4. Hatfield & The North - Rotters Club
5. Anglagard - Hybris
6. VDGG - Pawn Hearts
7. Yes - CTTE
8. Banco - Io Sono Nato Libero
9. Hatfield & The North - s/t
10. National Health - Of Queues & Cures
11. PFM - Storia Di Un Minuto
12. Genesis - Foxtrot
13. Magma - HHai
14. Jethro Tull - Thick As A Brick
15. Gentle Giant - In A Glass House
16. Area - Arbeit Macht Frei
17. Gentle Giant - Octopus
18. Banco - s/t
19. Caravan - In The Land Of Grey & Pink
20. Il Balletto di Bronzo - Ys

Interesting list, they sure like their Italians

Hmmm, did the filters filter out some stuff that counts as prog around here? I have no issues with the Italians, but Pink Floyd should for sure be represented, shouldn't they? Another thing I agree unsurprisingly with the RYM folks is that Can should be in there. Hybris better than Tago Mago (or for those who have issues with the second album Ege Bamyasi, Future Days, or Babaluma)? I ask you.
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Originally posted by Sacro_Porgo Sacro_Porgo wrote:

Originally posted by Nogbad_The_Bad Nogbad_The_Bad wrote:

Gnosis has a ranking system where their 110 or so 'experts' rate albums so you get more of a curated ranking. If I filter that down to the top prog albums with lots of ratings (>30) I get a top 20 of:-

1. King Crimson - Larks Tongues In Aspic
2. PFM - Per Un Amico
3. Banco - Darwin!
4. Hatfield & The North - Rotters Club
5. Anglagard - Hybris
6. VDGG - Pawn Hearts
7. Yes - CTTE
8. Banco - Io Sono Nato Libero
9. Hatfield & The North - s/t
10. National Health - Of Queues & Cures
11. PFM - Storia Di Un Minuto
12. Genesis - Foxtrot
13. Magma - HHai
14. Jethro Tull - Thick As A Brick
15. Gentle Giant - In A Glass House
16. Area - Arbeit Macht Frei
17. Gentle Giant - Octopus
18. Banco - s/t
19. Caravan - In The Land Of Grey & Pink
20. Il Balletto di Bronzo - Ys

Interesting list, they sure like their Italians

Incredibly interesting list! I dare say that's a great list for anyone looking to seriously get in to prog, who maybe knows some of the most popular classics already.

I will also say, it pains me to see Larks Tongues at the top when Red is no where in sight! I love both, mind you.

I think there must be a bug in their algorithm, Red should sit in 13th between Foxtrot and Hhai based on its rating, not sure why it didn't appear.
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Originally posted by Lewian Lewian wrote:


Hmmm, did the filters filter out some stuff that counts as prog around here? I have no issues with the Italians, but Pink Floyd should for sure be represented, shouldn't they? Another thing I agree unsurprisingly with the RYM folks is that Can should be in there. Hybris better than Tago Mago (or for those who have issues with the second album Ege Bamyasi, Future Days, or Babaluma)? I ask you.

Meddle is the highest rated Floyd album at 11.84 (out of 15) whereas Il Balletto in 20th is 12.4
CAN - Tago Mago is rated 11.4, Ege Bamyasi 11.25, Future Days 11.27, Babaluma 10.54 

My personal CAN ranking are all higher than that. There's a real range on CAN, there are 15 ratings of 14 or 15 on Tago Mago which is perfection and near perfection. There's also a bunch of 6, 7, 8 & 9's.


Edited by Nogbad_The_Bad - October 19 2021 at 14:27
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Originally posted by Nogbad_The_Bad Nogbad_The_Bad wrote:

Originally posted by Sacro_Porgo Sacro_Porgo wrote:

Originally posted by Nogbad_The_Bad Nogbad_The_Bad wrote:

Gnosis has a ranking system where their 110 or so 'experts' rate albums so you get more of a curated ranking. If I filter that down to the top prog albums with lots of ratings (>30) I get a top 20 of:-

1. King Crimson - Larks Tongues In Aspic
2. PFM - Per Un Amico
3. Banco - Darwin!
4. Hatfield & The North - Rotters Club
5. Anglagard - Hybris
6. VDGG - Pawn Hearts
7. Yes - CTTE
8. Banco - Io Sono Nato Libero
9. Hatfield & The North - s/t
10. National Health - Of Queues & Cures
11. PFM - Storia Di Un Minuto
12. Genesis - Foxtrot
13. Magma - HHai
14. Jethro Tull - Thick As A Brick
15. Gentle Giant - In A Glass House
16. Area - Arbeit Macht Frei
17. Gentle Giant - Octopus
18. Banco - s/t
19. Caravan - In The Land Of Grey & Pink
20. Il Balletto di Bronzo - Ys

Interesting list, they sure like their Italians

Incredibly interesting list! I dare say that's a great list for anyone looking to seriously get in to prog, who maybe knows some of the most popular classics already.

I will also say, it pains me to see Larks Tongues at the top when Red is no where in sight! I love both, mind you.

I think there must be a bug in their algorithm, Red should sit in 13th between Foxtrot and Hhai based on its rating, not sure why it didn't appear.

That's better! :)
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Originally posted by Lewian Lewian wrote:

Originally posted by Nogbad_The_Bad Nogbad_The_Bad wrote:

Gnosis has a ranking system where their 110 or so 'experts' rate albums so you get more of a curated ranking. If I filter that down to the top prog albums with lots of ratings (>30) I get a top 20 of:-

1. King Crimson - Larks Tongues In Aspic
2. PFM - Per Un Amico
3. Banco - Darwin!
4. Hatfield & The North - Rotters Club
5. Anglagard - Hybris
6. VDGG - Pawn Hearts
7. Yes - CTTE
8. Banco - Io Sono Nato Libero
9. Hatfield & The North - s/t
10. National Health - Of Queues & Cures
11. PFM - Storia Di Un Minuto
12. Genesis - Foxtrot
13. Magma - HHai
14. Jethro Tull - Thick As A Brick
15. Gentle Giant - In A Glass House
16. Area - Arbeit Macht Frei
17. Gentle Giant - Octopus
18. Banco - s/t
19. Caravan - In The Land Of Grey & Pink
20. Il Balletto di Bronzo - Ys

Interesting list, they sure like their Italians

Hmmm, did the filters filter out some stuff that counts as prog around here? I have no issues with the Italians, but Pink Floyd should for sure be represented, shouldn't they? Another thing I agree unsurprisingly with the RYM folks is that Can should be in there. Hybris better than Tago Mago (or for those who have issues with the second album Ege Bamyasi, Future Days, or Babaluma)? I ask you.

PF's exclusion definitely strikes me as odd. Maybe their experts are all too big of snobs to acknowledge Floyd's greatness. :p
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After seeing the gnosis website, and their (complicated) way of drawing up the ranking, I tried to formulate my (provisional) ranking here 
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Originally posted by micky micky wrote:

Originally posted by Lewian Lewian wrote:

I'm not sure whether even one of these is in my personal top 20 (although I like many of them a lot) but I don't mind. The game is to rank these. And I'm fine with that. I don't need to put my personal favourites up in every ranking of anything...

true that.. what is the harm ehh..  putting an asterick by those I would probably put in my own personal top 20 and I think I grossly estimated how much my tastes overlap the forums...

*01: Close to the Edge 
02: Fragile 
03: Dark Side of the Moon
04: Selling England 
05: Wish You Were Here 
06: Animals 
07: Mirage
08: Itchycock
09: Per Un Amico
10: Relayer 
11: Larks Tongues in Aspic
12: Nursery Cryme
13: Red 
14: Foxtrot
15: Moonmadness
16: Thick as a Brick 
17: Moving Pictures 
18: Godbluff
19: Pawn Hearts
20: From Silence to Somewhere (ummm what the f**k is this album.. and what is it doing here on this list btw)




I was asking myself the same question. The other 19 albums I could line up in any order it wouldn't matter.
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In the Court of the Crimson King
Selling England by the Pound
Foxtrot
Moonmadness
Mirage
Larks' Tongues in Aspic
Red
Pawn Hearts
Godbluff
Per Un Amico
Close to the Edge
Fragile
Thick as a Brick
Nursery Cryme
Wish You Were Here
The Dark Side of the Moon
Animals
Relayer
Moving Pictures
From Silence to Somewhere
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Originally posted by omphaloskepsis omphaloskepsis wrote:

01: Close to the Edge
02:Dark Side of the Moon
03: Fragile
04: Wish You Were Here
05: Thick as a Brick
06: Nursery Cryme
07: Moving Pictures
08:  Relayer
09: Court of the Crimson King
10: From Silence to Somewhere
11: Animals
12: Foxtrot
13: Per Un Amico
14: Selling  England by the Pound
15:  Larks Tongues in Aspic 
16: Moonmadness
17:  Red
18: Pawn Hearts
19: Mirage
20: Godbluff 

At the moment, 19 of these are still in the top 20, but Wobbler is not. That album is presently sitting at 25, and Rush’s Hemispheres is in the 20th spot. So, with that in mind:

01: In the Court of the Crimson King
02: Wish You Were Here
03: Larks Tongues in Aspic
04: Pawn Hearts
05: Godbluff
06: Red
07: Animals
08: Foxtrot
09: Mirage
10: Per un Amico
11: Hemispheres
12: Nursery Cryme
13: Selling England by the Pound
14: Thick as a Brick
15: Relayer
16: Moonmadness 
17: Close to the Edge 
18: Moving Pictures
19: Dark Side of the Moon 
20: Fragile

Despite owning all of these, very few of them would be in my own top 20, and even where there might be a possibility that some of the bands might feature in my own list, it would not be these albums. I am, however, well aware that my own preferences are just that - and I’m equally aware of how well and universally loved these albums are. That most are in the top 20 is hardly surprising.
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