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Originally posted by Frets N Worries Frets N Worries wrote:

I'm going to read the novel before I see the films. I think I'll wait until they're all out, that way I can take them in as one GIANT film, like 'The Lord of the Rings'

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I don't think there is a single film that is so tight and clean to the book, that stands out ... I think it is nearly impossible, since many books include internal parts from the character's mind/ideas which are always difficult to insert in the film, and have to be added via some dialogue, which tends to distort some of the continuity that the book has.

This is the hardest part of all films ... dealing with the "internal" ... and being able to make it work. There were/are some directors that were good at it (Bunuel is probably still the best at it!), but all in all it is like a screenplay writing professor once told me ... you can't jerk people's minds around like that! ... which is what happens in so many films with their continuity hurt.
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As a fan of the novels (Only the first 4 books up to the God-Emperor of Dune), I don't understand why:

Liet Kynes has become a woman
The Na-Baron Vladimir Harkonnen ends in a very different way (I don't want to spoiler, even the obvious)
The character of Alia is almost cancelled. In case Villeneuve decides to proceed with the Saga, this change makes it impossible without modifying completely the plot of the second book.

Some changes to the book make no sense at all. They subtract instead of adding.

Then, as Moskhito says, the books are full of thougths and reasonings of the various characters. I don't know how they can be transposed into a movie.

Thumb up for the effects, thumb down for the plot

Much better than the previous version with Paul McLachlan, anyway.
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Originally posted by octopus-4 octopus-4 wrote:

Liet Kynes has become a woman
The Na-Baron Vladimir Harkonnen ends in a very different way (I don't want to spoiler, even the obvious)
The character of Alia is almost cancelled. In case Villeneuve decides to proceed with the Saga, this change makes it impossible without modifying completely the plot of the second book.

I haven't heard for sure, but I would bet anything that Liet Kynes became a woman simply because someone at the studio thought the book was too "male-centered" and wanted more roles for females.

Some (but certainly not all) fans of the book have often complained that Vlad's death in the book is anti-climactic, even embarrassing. This change was an obvious concession to what moviegoers expect.

You're correct about the change regarding Alia. The problem is the action of this film series is condensed down to 4-5 months, instead of 4-5 years, like the book.

It should also be said that there is absolutely no mention whatsoever of the Spacing Guild in this series.
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