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ErpTheWizard 
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 Topic: Non Progger who should have tried
Posted: August 17 2004 at 17:14 |
Ali Farka Touré. Imagine african prog.  
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"When 900 years you reach, look as good, you will not." -Yoda
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threefates
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Posted: August 14 2004 at 23:38 |
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David Sylvain... oh wait.. I think he tried..
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greenback
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Posted: August 14 2004 at 23:02 |
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Mylene Farmer!
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James Lee
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Posted: August 04 2004 at 19:54 |
John Paul Jones did some great work with Diamanda Galas- more avant-garde than prog, but definitely worth checking out. Speaking of which, Ms. Galas has done some incredible gothic/ experimental albums including the incredible "Plaugue Mass" which should never be listened to alone in a darkened room...
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Dan Bobrowski
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Posted: August 04 2004 at 17:01 |
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Japan made it into the archives via Rain Tree Crow. Fantasic album, IMO.
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Russiandude
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Posted: August 04 2004 at 14:36 |
Cesar Inca wrote:
Bassist/keyboardist/otherstuffist - JOHN PAUL JONES
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Since John's name popped up here. Well Led Zeppelin (especially Achille's Last Stand) already had this in them, that is were drifting in that direction. While personally I always called all Robert Plant's solo work as fusion of heavy blues and prog.
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Russiandude
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Posted: August 04 2004 at 14:27 |
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Agree entirely, I'm sure they had another "Salisbury" at least in them. There's still time yet...
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As UH's media noted once: for Russians this band carries a very special significance, not to mention the fact that July Morning was USSR's alternative state anthem--this is absolutely TRUE without any stretch. About 90% of Russian prog fans (which is quite a lot in terms of numbers) started their venture namely from UH and its Salisbury and Look At Yourself--I am one of them
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Easy Livin
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Posted: August 04 2004 at 14:23 |
Russiandude wrote:
zappa123 wrote:
Maybe Uriah heep.I think they had a lot of potential for good prog rock.
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I guess Uriah Heep could loosely be associated to prog, especially Magician's Birthday (both album and song-suite itself, especially), while Return to Fantasy and High & Mighty alltogether are more prog than melodic hard'n'heavy-well, that's too. UH seemed to remain symphonic throughout their whole tenure with David Byron and their love for complex rythmic structures of songs (and not the least the fact that John Wetton ended up in King Crimson, and Asia, and...) testify to that, plus: they experimented a lot with the sound...
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Agree entirely, I'm sure they had another "Salisbury" at least in them. There's still time yet...
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Russiandude
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Posted: August 04 2004 at 11:56 |
Yep, I would've love to see and listen to Mark in a prog band! Early this month, I was talking 'bout how I considered "Alchemy" a very proggy production (despite it is a live album)... but, only, only in a band 'cus his solo career pretty much sux to me 
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Do not judge Mark that harshly--he always was folkish and into bluez big time!!! He is more likely still to be found on the stage with Clapton or BB than in some prog production, which by no means diminishes his enormous contribution to put it simply--to the great music, especially in the times of a new wave rampage and ultimate commercialism, namely 80-s. I remember 80-s very clearly still and the decline of Genesis . Dire Straits sounded than fresh and so conceptual and Mark's guitar sound!!!
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Russiandude
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Posted: August 04 2004 at 11:40 |
zappa123 wrote:
Maybe Uriah heep.I think they had a lot of potential for good prog rock.
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I guess Uriah Heep could loosely be associated to prog, especially Magician's Birthday (both album and song-suite itself, especially), while Return to Fantasy and High & Mighty alltogether are more prog than melodic hard'n'heavy-well, that's too. UH seemed to remain symphonic throughout their whole tenure with David Byron and their love for complex rythmic structures of songs (and not the least the fact that John Wetton ended up in King Crimson, and Asia, and...) testify to that, plus: they experimented a lot with the sound...
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dude
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Posted: August 04 2004 at 09:53 |
INTERESTING!!
I THINK TALK TALK WERE A KICK IN THE POSTERIOR AWAY FROM PROG BUT WERE CAUGHT IN THE NEW WAVE/NEW ROMANTIC SOUND OF THE EARLY/ MID 80'S
CLOSE BUT JUST NOT QUITE, IMHO!!(I REALLY LIKED THE COLOUR OF SPRING AND LIFE'S WHAT YOU MAKE IT IS STILL ONE OF THE GREAT 80'S SONGS!!)
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threefates
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Posted: August 04 2004 at 09:24 |
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I think Depeche Mode or Ultravox... maybe even FLock of Seagulls...once the hair thing calmed down.
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zappa123
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Posted: August 04 2004 at 08:46 |
Maybe Uriah heep.I think they had a lot of potential for good prog rock.
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Certif1ed
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Posted: August 04 2004 at 03:16 |
My vote goes to the French composer Didier Squiban - who is also a phenomenal pianist. His album "Molenes" just blew me away the first time I heard it; The music is a kind of Mediaeval Celtic style blended with Debussy and Jazz. I even heard a little Tony Banks in there - one of the movements of the second suite seems to draw from "Firth of Fifth" with beautiful arced melodies in the right hand and complex off-beat rhythms in the left.
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Blacksword
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Posted: August 04 2004 at 03:12 |
Japan & Tears for Fears had prog potential, I think
As did the Cure at times. There are moments on their 'Kiss me Kiss me Kiss me' album that are very prog; wierdness mixed with all manner of ambient soundscapes (man!)
Someone mentioned Siouxsie & the banshees - another fine band. There are tracks on their Hyeana album, with a a very proggy feel, notably 'Swimming horses', 'Take me back' and 'Running town'
Lets not forget Killing Joke. Their album 'Brighter than a thousand suns' is a masterpiece, with very prog leanings. Some tracks are very conceptual, and although the Killing Joke agression is still evident, the production and overall sound is proggy.
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Ultimately bored by endless ecstasy!
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Velvetclown
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Posted: August 04 2004 at 03:11 |
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Very true Richardh, but XTC changed their music alot after they quit touring and they became a little more complicated musically.Had not Andy Partridge got stagefright, he would have been a great frontman in a progband, with his wit and sense of drama.
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richardh
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Posted: August 04 2004 at 02:30 |
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Talking of new wave bands XTC is a good shout along with The Stranglers and Sioxsie and the Banshees.These bands could have been the next wave of prog bands if they hadn't jumped on the punk bandwagon.I would also name Gary Numan,Simple Minds and OMD as artists who had more ability than their records may have suggested.
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Velvetclown
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Posted: August 04 2004 at 02:20 |
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XTC Their music is a sort of thinking mans pop.
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The Prognaut
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Posted: August 04 2004 at 01:47 |
danbo wrote:
John Lennon could have authored one hell of a prog classic. He is the genius' genius.
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Yes, indeed. He would've come up with something huge. Like the ultimate prog rock opera for instance...
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break the circle
reset my head
wake the sleepwalker
and i'll wake the dead
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Marcelo
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Posted: August 04 2004 at 00:57 |
landberkdoten wrote:
Marcelo wrote:
It's possible only for Threefates  ... About the thread, I always wished to hear Joni Mitchell singing in a prog band. I thing she could fit very well (I like her). And Mark Knopfler too, I agree.
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Yep, I would've love to see and listen to Mark in a prog band! Early this month, I was talking 'bout how I considered "Alchemy" a very proggy production (despite it is a live album)... but, only, only in a band 'cus his solo career pretty much sux to me
Si, me hubiera encantado ver y escuchar a Mark en una banda de prog! Recientemente este mes, estaba hablando de como consideraba a "Alchemy" una producción bastante progresiva (pese a que es un album en vivo)... pero, tan solo, únicamente en una banda porque a mi parecer su carrera de solista apesta
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Es verdad (y, en realidad, muchos temas de Dire Straits también).
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