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Valdez ![]() Forum Senior Member ![]() ![]() Joined: September 17 2005 Location: United States Status: Offline Points: 1242 |
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https://bakullama1.bandcamp.com/album/maxwells-submarine
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Saperlipopette! ![]() Forum Senior Member ![]() ![]() Joined: December 20 2010 Location: Tomorrowland Status: Offline Points: 13035 |
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Very pretty melody or theme, and a nice atmosphere. The programming of the drumming (I don't really know what I should call it) is a huge improvement. But I think that when your musical expression is this minimal, you can play around a little with the rhythms, to keep things interesting. It would be nice to feel that it sort of takes you somewhere. I don't mean a whole lot. You can make it go quiet at one point, or slow it down, speed it up maybe add some spice and ornaments. I don't know.
These are real drums, but it's kept very simple. There's just these tiny little adds or changes every once in a while that make all the difference. More human and lifelike perhaps. I love the sheer sound of the percussion here as well. |
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Valdez ![]() Forum Senior Member ![]() ![]() Joined: September 17 2005 Location: United States Status: Offline Points: 1242 |
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Thanks SP. I agree more dynamics. A drop out of the drums somewhere . I get what you are saying. It runs a little long without a rest. Thanks. The beat needs some attention. I liked the music you posted.
Hopefully I can bump it up a notch or two as I work on it. Kalvin wants to re-do the end guitar solo. It will change. ![]() We may even trim it down to 5 minutes or so. Edited by Valdez - June 12 2025 at 05:47 |
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Saperlipopette! ![]() Forum Senior Member ![]() ![]() Joined: December 20 2010 Location: Tomorrowland Status: Offline Points: 13035 |
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^ Do what you think is best, but I have no problem with the tracklength. It's kind of nice to be allowed to stay inside the music for a while.
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moshkito ![]() Forum Senior Member ![]() ![]() Joined: January 04 2007 Location: Grok City Status: Offline Points: 18658 |
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Hi,
As I sit here, listening to something that brings me up wanting to think of something ... it feels too quiet ... very true and clean meditation ... some things happen some don't ... the expression continues not sure if I should cry or simply allow the flow ...maybe remember an old ... flame ... it's forgotten too long ago driven by who knows what ... leaving me ... maybe us wondering what it is meant to do ... meditation for me is not about meaning never was but the inner quiet was always a special moment in time ... you didn't want it to end ... ever ... It felt good simply flowing the mind's eye and thoughts with no direction ... for a while ... until your vision sees another sight another idea we think ... my mind was never a song ... it was a constant flow that never stopped and one day will tell me there is no more ... but in the mean time there is a feeling that has no words ... that can be appreciated to no end ... to no end ... just let it flow once twice a wee bit more let it flow ... let it flow ... the heart watches and tunes in ... let it flow let it flow let it flow ... again ... again! |
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Music is not just for listening ... it is for LIVING ... you got to feel it to know what's it about! Not being told!
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moshkito ![]() Forum Senior Member ![]() ![]() Joined: January 04 2007 Location: Grok City Status: Offline Points: 18658 |
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Hi,
For me, it depends on how you trust your work to be ... something else that your mind wishes to express, as you end up finding that what you created is not exactly what you had in mind. The ideas and changes, suggested and thought about, will destroy the reality of this piece as it is. I don't recommend it. It is the hardest part in my writing, always having the thought that something is better, or can be better, and not recognizing the life and breadth of what you just created. I tend not to make "changes", since the "moment in time", while it can only be done once, it can be remembered a few times, though never really the same, until it becomes a senseless piece of something that had a small life, that got taken away with different days, touches and ideas. My sister, paints like this, and sometimes her touch on one spot takes days, and for my tastes and thoughts, it made no difference to the painting, as if it were a highlight that had to be seen and created a moment of thought, or confusion, or ... some imaginary this and that ... and this is the main reason why I do the internal writing, or the external writing. In general, the internal is what it is ... a special moment in time, and I can clean up the English, but changing it or taking something out, or adding something else, makes it a different moment in time, as if you could change something from yesterday ... In the end, you will find it doesn't matter, and the amount of time wasted in thinking that more, or less, has to be done here, there, everywhere, is an illusion ... a greener grass on the other side of the fence, or on the other side of our minds. Dream on first. And make it live ... live ... and live ... there's a beauty in that. NOTE: Sorry ... sometimes I like things a bit too much, and they bring up special moments. Go ahead and kill your piece of music by doing something or other to it, because you don't think it is perfect. Life isn't perfect. We don't allow it to be perfect!!!!! Happy days with a little wind in the sails of the heart. |
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Music is not just for listening ... it is for LIVING ... you got to feel it to know what's it about! Not being told!
www.pedrosena.com |
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Saperlipopette! ![]() Forum Senior Member ![]() ![]() Joined: December 20 2010 Location: Tomorrowland Status: Offline Points: 13035 |
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^ I told Valdez what I thought. Because he asked. Just like you are doing.
All my life I've listened to suggesions and advice. Some I've taken to heart, while others, not. It has most certainly been benefitial to me. It has filled up my toolbox, helped me see things differently and expanded my artistic vocabulary. I'm not asking for perfection. But this time like the last time, I felt that there was paid less attention to the percussive side of things - compared to the rest of the musical components. Whether my suggestion is taken into consideration or not, isn't really the point. If I wrote something that felt meaningful, I may have planted something that might, or may not be fruitful. If not this time, maybe the next. Or not at all. I see nothing wrong with that. Quite the contrary. Edited by Saperlipopette! - June 12 2025 at 12:38 |
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Valdez ![]() Forum Senior Member ![]() ![]() Joined: September 17 2005 Location: United States Status: Offline Points: 1242 |
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Believe me when I say I listen to suggestions, critiques, And peoples feelings about this stuff. Saperpoppetes observations were/are right on the mark. Also appreciate the time moshkito takes to air his feelings about things. I have no formal music education, I was a painting contractor since 18 years old, so the learning experience concerning the mechanics of music is vital if I am to continue. Nothing is ever really ‘finished’, but I’ve abandoned unfinished things just to move on to the next project. This song is meant to showcase Kalvin’s talent And feel for the guitar. It’s his track. I want to back it as best I can.
Edited by Valdez - June 12 2025 at 08:21 |
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moshkito ![]() Forum Senior Member ![]() ![]() Joined: January 04 2007 Location: Grok City Status: Offline Points: 18658 |
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Hi I can never tell you, or anyone, how or why I respond to something or other. It happens or it doesn't. I think a lot of it is because I write off my dreams, which have a rather interesting detail to them ... if a moment gets stuck, the next night, like magic, it gets resolved, and it adds to the "story", if there was one, since I do not exactly consider them stories at all ... they just live on their own. Changes, and suggestions here, are difficult for me, because it is nothing but an ability to be able to recall the inner "movie" and then write it, so what you write is what you saw, and there is no change, or thoughts needed to improve it or not. And, for me, honestly, it says a lot about how folks create something, since the "complete" visual that you get from the dream and its continuing life (hate calling it a story!!!), when they feel that they need this or that ... in my case, it already comes with all the necessary tools and details, one could say, thus making changes, ends up breaking up the continuity of the whole thing. It was something that I helped a lot of actors with, and I call it the continuity, and it was better when they did it, and even if there was a mistake or something weird, the continuity of the whole thing, helped mask the detail that was not correct. And the surprise was, that after that exercise, a couple of times, the actors could find a way to smooth things out and ... not err again, during rehearsal or production. And, I knew it would work from my internal sight of dreams (read The Art of Dreaming), but the only thing I found to work it was with actors, and this was before I started writing all the time. This is the part of "progressive music" that bothers me sometimes, when there are changes almost for the sake of changes, which fits in a dreaming sort of way, though within the dream, it happens naturally and is not forced, or as I call it a change for the sake of a change! But sometimes it works, and it might be that we get accustomed to it, as has been the case with a lot of the arts in the 20th century, that were so drastic, as to send your imagination for several spins ... and I love those moments! Note: this has been a serious issue for me with a DAW, and adding something or other to what I created, but the issue here was not seeing it or not knowing what I had originally thought or heard ... the ability to hear the DAW and add to it at the same time, is something I never could figure out, and I have never come across someone that could help me with it ... but I have, saved, various pieces done on the Jupiter 8 VST (Arturia's) that are nice, but I know they need something I can not add yet, or if I ever will ... until I get some help in learning that part with a DAW ... a tool, that sometimes has too much, and does not exactly just do the very most basic detail of all, as far as I can tell! Someday ... someday ... Edited by moshkito - June 12 2025 at 17:16 |
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Music is not just for listening ... it is for LIVING ... you got to feel it to know what's it about! Not being told!
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