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    Posted: November 03 2004 at 17:06
I've never heard them personally. They're supposedly "avant-garde" music, and the "School of Rock" DVD chalkboard special feature thingy has them listed under "prog rock." Just wondering if they really are considered prog and if so why they aren't on this site. They sound a bit like Godspeed You Black Emperor because of all their anti-commercialism. Nobody even knows who's in the band, if they're male or female, or anything else about them! Discuss.
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Direct Link To This Post Posted: November 03 2004 at 17:24
all i know is that Todd Rundgren featured on one of their albums or something..
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Direct Link To This Post Posted: November 03 2004 at 18:31
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Direct Link To This Post Posted: November 03 2004 at 19:04

they put on a damn good show.

dunno if I'd call 'em prog though.

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According to legend, the Residents were school friends from Shreveport, Louisiana, who hopped into their car and high-tailed it to California in the late '60s, making it as far as San Mateo. Abandoning their car, they established their first residence and set about doing what they wanted to do. Not easy, since they wanted to make music, but had no idea how to play their instruments.

The music that they did make can best be divided into three periods. The first is from about 1969-1980, in which the band actually matured into something listenable. The first four releases (Rusty Coathangers for the Doctor, The Ballad of Stuffed Trigger, The Warner Bros. Album and Baby Sex) still remain unreleased as a whole. What has been released is heavily influenced by Frank Zappa, and made musical only by the presence of English guitar virtuoso Phil "Snakefinger" Lithman.

The Warner Bros. Album gave the group their name, since it was rejected by Warner Bros. and sent back to "Residents", due to the fact the group had not included a return name. The concept of anononymity was helped along by N. Senada (thought by some to be avant-Jazz composer Harry Partch), and the group decided to forever hide their identity. The early '70s albums used this mystique to hide a blatant amateurishness, even though the music is endearing in itself. Santa Dog and Meet The Residents are extensions of the unreleased Baby Sex, though a bit more cohesive and less offensive. The Third Reich and Roll features mutilated '60s radio nuggets thrown together into side-long suites. Fingerprince is probably the most progressive, originally intended as a three-sided album, featuring a number of shorter songs and the side-long percussive workout "Six Things to a Cycle". Duck Stab!/Buster and Glen stuck to more "normal" song structures, while Not Available, originally recorded in 1974 and intended to be unreleased until it was completely forgotten, is some sort of concept about souls and porcupines, etc. Eskimo featured mainly sound effects and "tribal" music, meant to be listened to while reading the stories in the liner notes about supposed Eskimo life. The culmination of this period was Commercial Album, a disk consisting of 40 one-minute songs.

The second period, from 1981-1987, is more chaotic. The Residents truly started the new decade with the Mole concept albums, meaning to release them as a six-part series, of which only parts one, two and four have been released. It dealt with the contact, war and ultimate forced integration between the Moles, a race of work-obsessed underground dwellers, and the hedonistic Chubs. The first record, Mark of the Mole, tells the story of the war, while the second, The Tunes of Two Cities, contrasts the musical styles of the two cultures. The Big Bubble is part four, supposedly a record released by a half-breed rock band for political reasons. The records resulted in an artistically successful, but financially disasterous world tour, documented best on 1987's The Mole Show Live in Holland. The second concept of the decade was the "American Composers' Series", of which George and James and Stars and Hank Forever are the only two full releases. The former, featuring selections by George Gershwin and James Brown, is one of the few Residents records to truly disappoint. Stars and Hank, featuring music by Hank Williams and John Philip Sousa, is better, at least on the Hank side. Vileness Fats is a soundtrack album to a short version of a video movie the group was working on in 1984, while Residue is an interesting compilation of outtakes. Heaven? and Hell! are also great compilations, including a number of hard-to-find singles, that would be of interest to beginners.

The third stage is that of a full concept band, and a trend toward more synthesized sounds after Snakefinger's death in 1988. God in 3 Persons, released along with an instrumental "soundtrack," tells the story of a huckster coming in contact with Siamese twins who have a true power of healing. The Cube-E performance, together with The King and Eye, is a show based on showing the roots of American music. Freak Show, which was later made into a CD-Rom, features stories about the participants and audience in a carnival sideshow. Gingerbread Man and Have a Bad Day are similar, both being tied to CD-Roms, and both featuring stories about tortured souls in the FS vein. Wormwood, the most recent release, features a number of violent and disturbing stories from none other than the Bible.

The reason for not reviewing each single album in its place is that Residents music must be taken as an entire body of work. The first period is probably the most interesting and adventurous, and the group has never sounded better than when working, or trying to work, with real instruments. Snakefinger was also a wonderful guitarist, and his best work is with the Residents during this period. Most of the '80s output is chaotic, a lot of it instrumental, and quite a bit unsatisfying. During this time half the group left, leading to a loss of creative direction, and Ralph Records, the record company that released everything, was going under. As for the third period, the group had trouble adjusting to life without Snakefinger. God in 3 Persons and the Cube-E related stuff was great, and Freak Show showed what the group could do with new digital technology. However, they got too involved in CD-Roms, and both Gingerbread Man and Have a Bad Day generally fall flat. Live at the Fillmore features performances from FS, GB and HaBD, all of which are much better than what was released. Also, a new direction was seen in the last part of the Fillmore performance, "Disfigured Night". The group has begun adding real instruments back into the mix, making the Wormwood project accessible, but still musically challenging.

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These guys did too much acid. Typical Ralph Records "I'm weirder than you are" fare. No chops.
Experimental rock. Bizarre. Good for getting rid of uninvited guests.
Possibly the most unique band anywhere, what they do can't really be easily compared to any other artists. Everything they do seems to defy convenient categorization, but the spirit in which they approach their music (and everyone elses) might be comparable to the early Mothers of Invention with Frank Zappa. Their sound is definitely odd, maybe strange or even weird, they often do mutant interpretations of pop songs, sometimes beyond recognition, or cloudy musical montages of voices, noise, music and dialogue. These guys are definitely too bizarre to appeal to the masses, but if you give them an open minded chance, they'll grow on you quickly. Best place to start: any of the late 70's albums, incl. Duck Stab, Fingerprince, Eskimo - even Not Available, but don't get them all at once - may result in overdose.
I was actually frightened by The Residents the first time I heard them. I'm sorta familiar with everything up to Eskimo, and I'd recommend buying *one* Residents album if you're adventurous. It probably doesn't matter which one. Really, I don't see that you'd sit and listen to them repeatedly; they're more like a band you'd just play occasionally for friends who haven't heard them.
Mysterious ultra-experimental band whose identities remain hidden behind enormous eyeballs. All their early stuff is excellent. Third Reich and Roll is a stream-of-conscience collage of a bunch of sixties songs, everything from "Light My Fire," to "Good Loving" to "In-a-gadda-da-vida," to "I’ve got love in my tummy," totally warped into another dimension, and many totally unrecognizable. Not Available is a bizarre rock (?) opera in four parts, totally alien and creepy and opaque. Eskimo uses homemade instruments to create an ethnic forgery much more fully realized than any of those by Can, and through the processed voices you can occasionally make out commercial jingles for stuff like Coke Cola. The other albums from this period are just as excellent, all sounding very different from each other and yet all sounding very much from the same unique band. Sometimes you’ll wonder if the Residents are from another world or something. Even the more song-oriented albums like the high energy Duck Stab/Buster & Glen and the first side of Fingerprince are utterly weird. The Commercial Album is a little less satisfying, with its concept of 40 one-minute songs. After that, they started working on longer concept projects (The Mole Trilogy, the Composers Series) but the actual music is slightly more conventional, almost approaching normal synth pop at times. I’ve also seen a couple of their rare live shows, which were very visual, more like experimental theatre, with other performers and elaborate sets. -- Rolf Semprebon
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Direct Link To This Post Posted: November 03 2004 at 22:18

Sounds like a Godspeed You Black Emperor mentality and Captain Beefheart and Frank Zappa mixed in.

Definitely a prog attitude in those terms, but the music?....never heard it.

Anyone able to shed light on this one?

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Direct Link To This Post Posted: November 03 2004 at 22:24
Originally posted by penguindf12 penguindf12 wrote:

Sounds like a Godspeed You Black Emperor mentality and Captain Beefheart and Frank Zappa mixed in.

Definitely a prog attitude in those terms, but the music?....never heard it.

Anyone able to shed light on this one?

What!...that wasn't good enough Penguin?....tough customer!!

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Direct Link To This Post Posted: November 04 2004 at 05:53
Re;-ETHNIC FORGERY. Try to track down John Oswald's Plunderphonics box set. It is amazing! It's irreverence toward popular music i.e.Michael Jackson /Madonna et al is jaw-dropping.It earned Oswald umpteen law suits for illegal sampling.He is also responsible for Grateful Dead's Greyfolded Cds. Plunderphoni(a)phonics seems to be a San Francisco phenomonen
viz the Residents link.
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Direct Link To This Post Posted: November 04 2004 at 07:36
LOL, Harry Partch a Resident. And people make fun of me for reading Fortean Times.
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Direct Link To This Post Posted: November 04 2004 at 14:25
Originally posted by gdub411 gdub411 wrote:

According to legend, the Residents were school friends from Shreveport, Louisiana, who hopped into their car and high-tailed it to California in the late '60s, making it as far as San Mateo. Abandoning their car, they established their first residence and set about doing what they wanted to do. Not easy, since they wanted to make music, but had no idea how to play their instruments.

The music that they did make can best be divided into three periods. The first is from about 1969-1980, in which the band actually matured into something listenable. The first four releases (Rusty Coathangers for the Doctor, The Ballad of Stuffed Trigger, The Warner Bros. Album and Baby Sex) still remain unreleased as a whole. What has been released is heavily influenced by Frank Zappa, and made musical only by the presence of English guitar virtuoso Phil "Snakefinger" Lithman.

The Warner Bros. Album gave the group their name, since it was rejected by Warner Bros. and sent back to "Residents", due to the fact the group had not included a return name. The concept of anononymity was helped along by N. Senada (thought by some to be avant-Jazz composer Harry Partch), and the group decided to forever hide their identity. The early '70s albums used this mystique to hide a blatant amateurishness, even though the music is endearing in itself. Santa Dog and Meet The Residents are extensions of the unreleased Baby Sex, though a bit more cohesive and less offensive. The Third Reich and Roll features mutilated '60s radio nuggets thrown together into side-long suites. Fingerprince is probably the most progressive, originally intended as a three-sided album, featuring a number of shorter songs and the side-long percussive workout "Six Things to a Cycle". Duck Stab!/Buster and Glen stuck to more "normal" song structures, while Not Available, originally recorded in 1974 and intended to be unreleased until it was completely forgotten, is some sort of concept about souls and porcupines, etc. Eskimo featured mainly sound effects and "tribal" music, meant to be listened to while reading the stories in the liner notes about supposed Eskimo life. The culmination of this period was Commercial Album, a disk consisting of 40 one-minute songs.

The second period, from 1981-1987, is more chaotic. The Residents truly started the new decade with the Mole concept albums, meaning to release them as a six-part series, of which only parts one, two and four have been released. It dealt with the contact, war and ultimate forced integration between the Moles, a race of work-obsessed underground dwellers, and the hedonistic Chubs. The first record, Mark of the Mole, tells the story of the war, while the second, The Tunes of Two Cities, contrasts the musical styles of the two cultures. The Big Bubble is part four, supposedly a record released by a half-breed rock band for political reasons. The records resulted in an artistically successful, but financially disasterous world tour, documented best on 1987's The Mole Show Live in Holland. The second concept of the decade was the "American Composers' Series", of which George and James and Stars and Hank Forever are the only two full releases. The former, featuring selections by George Gershwin and James Brown, is one of the few Residents records to truly disappoint. Stars and Hank, featuring music by Hank Williams and John Philip Sousa, is better, at least on the Hank side. Vileness Fats is a soundtrack album to a short version of a video movie the group was working on in 1984, while Residue is an interesting compilation of outtakes. Heaven? and Hell! are also great compilations, including a number of hard-to-find singles, that would be of interest to beginners.

The third stage is that of a full concept band, and a trend toward more synthesized sounds after Snakefinger's death in 1988. God in 3 Persons, released along with an instrumental "soundtrack," tells the story of a huckster coming in contact with Siamese twins who have a true power of healing. The Cube-E performance, together with The King and Eye, is a show based on showing the roots of American music. Freak Show, which was later made into a CD-Rom, features stories about the participants and audience in a carnival sideshow. Gingerbread Man and Have a Bad Day are similar, both being tied to CD-Roms, and both featuring stories about tortured souls in the FS vein. Wormwood, the most recent release, features a number of violent and disturbing stories from none other than the Bible.

The reason for not reviewing each single album in its place is that Residents music must be taken as an entire body of work. The first period is probably the most interesting and adventurous, and the group has never sounded better than when working, or trying to work, with real instruments. Snakefinger was also a wonderful guitarist, and his best work is with the Residents during this period. Most of the '80s output is chaotic, a lot of it instrumental, and quite a bit unsatisfying. During this time half the group left, leading to a loss of creative direction, and Ralph Records, the record company that released everything, was going under. As for the third period, the group had trouble adjusting to life without Snakefinger. God in 3 Persons and the Cube-E related stuff was great, and Freak Show showed what the group could do with new digital technology. However, they got too involved in CD-Roms, and both Gingerbread Man and Have a Bad Day generally fall flat. Live at the Fillmore features performances from FS, GB and HaBD, all of which are much better than what was released. Also, a new direction was seen in the last part of the Fillmore performance, "Disfigured Night". The group has begun adding real instruments back into the mix, making the Wormwood project accessible, but still musically challenging.

The Residents' residence is currently thought to be in San Francisco. But who really knows? -- Eric Wincentsen

These guys did too much acid. Typical Ralph Records "I'm weirder than you are" fare. No chops.
Experimental rock. Bizarre. Good for getting rid of uninvited guests.
Possibly the most unique band anywhere, what they do can't really be easily compared to any other artists. Everything they do seems to defy convenient categorization, but the spirit in which they approach their music (and everyone elses) might be comparable to the early Mothers of Invention with Frank Zappa. Their sound is definitely odd, maybe strange or even weird, they often do mutant interpretations of pop songs, sometimes beyond recognition, or cloudy musical montages of voices, noise, music and dialogue. These guys are definitely too bizarre to appeal to the masses, but if you give them an open minded chance, they'll grow on you quickly. Best place to start: any of the late 70's albums, incl. Duck Stab, Fingerprince, Eskimo - even Not Available, but don't get them all at once - may result in overdose.
I was actually frightened by The Residents the first time I heard them. I'm sorta familiar with everything up to Eskimo, and I'd recommend buying *one* Residents album if you're adventurous. It probably doesn't matter which one. Really, I don't see that you'd sit and listen to them repeatedly; they're more like a band you'd just play occasionally for friends who haven't heard them.
Mysterious ultra-experimental band whose identities remain hidden behind enormous eyeballs. All their early stuff is excellent. Third Reich and Roll is a stream-of-conscience collage of a bunch of sixties songs, everything from "Light My Fire," to "Good Loving" to "In-a-gadda-da-vida," to "I’ve got love in my tummy," totally warped into another dimension, and many totally unrecognizable. Not Available is a bizarre rock (?) opera in four parts, totally alien and creepy and opaque. Eskimo uses homemade instruments to create an ethnic forgery much more fully realized than any of those by Can, and through the processed voices you can occasionally make out commercial jingles for stuff like Coke Cola. The other albums from this period are just as excellent, all sounding very different from each other and yet all sounding very much from the same unique band. Sometimes you’ll wonder if the Residents are from another world or something. Even the more song-oriented albums like the high energy Duck Stab/Buster & Glen and the first side of Fingerprince are utterly weird. The Commercial Album is a little less satisfying, with its concept of 40 one-minute songs. After that, they started working on longer concept projects (The Mole Trilogy, the Composers Series) but the actual music is slightly more conventional, almost approaching normal synth pop at times. I’ve also seen a couple of their rare live shows, which were very visual, more like experimental theatre, with other performers and elaborate sets. -- Rolf Semprebon


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Direct Link To This Post Posted: November 04 2004 at 14:35
Thanks for noticing. I was starting to wonder if this post was blank to you guys!! I retrieved it from  New Gibalter. Apparently they consider them progressive. I never heard them, but I remember reading about them and Penguin jogged my memory. I thought it might help others who read this thread get an idea who these guys were. They sound interesting to me actually. I may look into some of their stuff.
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Direct Link To This Post Posted: November 04 2004 at 15:08
The few songs I heard, from something called "the pop album" or "the commercial album" or some such, weren't at all what I'd call prog. While inventive, they were much more towards the electronically ambient sort of thing (if I recall correctly), at any rate, they didn't appeal to me when I had a certain snobbery about music that wasn't prog...
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Direct Link To This Post Posted: November 04 2004 at 15:17

Originally posted by goose goose wrote:

The few songs I heard, from something called "the pop album" or "the commercial album" or some such, weren't at all what I'd call prog. While inventive, they were much more towards the electronically ambient sort of thing (if I recall correctly), at any rate, they didn't appeal to me when I had a certain snobbery about music that wasn't prog...

The Commercial Album is a little less satisfying, with its concept of 40 one-minute songs. I think you just randomly selected a bad one from them.

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Direct Link To This Post Posted: January 05 2005 at 12:34

I don't think you could call the Residents prog, but prog musicians such as Chris Cutler and Fred Frith have worked with them from time to time. Maybe if Faust had been from Louisiana they'd have sounded like this - a very avant garde, skewed take on pop music. I loved the Commercial Album btw, but it really is a love/hate thing. There's a good compilation of their more accessible moments called 'Petting Zoo', which I think is a mid price CD and is not a bad place to start.

I was lucky enough to catch the 13th anniversary show in Manchester with Snakefinger (RIP) on guitar. Even if you don't care for the recorded works, see them live if you can, they put on a unique show.

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Direct Link To This Post Posted: January 05 2005 at 14:51
I wouldn't call them prog at all.  I have the commercial album and I don't really see where it is that great.  The songs aren't long enough to hold anything memorable in them once some of the get going, their done.  They remind me of 'The Legendary Yellow Dots' except much worse.

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