| Author |
 Topic Search  Topic Options
|
BebieM 
Forum Senior Member
Joined: November 01 2004
Location: Germany
Status: Offline
Points: 854
|
 Posted: January 08 2005 at 02:08 |
 DallasBryan wrote:
is it the lack of a lead guitarist that causes you
problems, emersons soloing as opposed to
symphonic underpinnings? greg lakes voice or
lyrical content? or carl palmers rapid fire drumming
to rythmic changes? bombast as opposed to
atmospheric changes? who did it first as opposed to
who copied it later with better studio/digital
equipment? the whole thing sucks Marillion is better
or Henry Cow rocks?
what is it that you dont like, and what is it you like? |
Man, I'm not even trying to put ELP down, but I'm just saying they're not top10 prog for me. You should know that you can't argue with that "whats causing me problems" thing, there's more to music than just filling out some points like good soloing, nice vocals and so on ...
well, there are some things i dont like about ELP though, from ur list it would be:
emersons soloing as opposed to symphonic underpinning (wouldnt say it generally though, just in ELPs case)
lyrics arent that great IMO
bombast as opposed to atmospheric changes
dunno enuff about marillion and henry cow 
BUT PLEASE: I'm getting depressed of writing posts against ELP all the time, I don't want to be the anti-ELP guy of that forum, I do like to listen to some of their stuff, and i just said i don't like them as much as many others do....... there's actually no special reason for that, i just think other bands are way better.... PEACE!!
|
 |
threefates
Forum Senior Member
Joined: June 30 2004
Location: United States
Status: Offline
Points: 4215
|
Posted: January 08 2005 at 03:21 |
BebieM wrote:
threefates wrote:
Oh Bebe... as a girl, I'm surprised at you... you've missed the point completely. I have these conversations with Ivan (and usually Cert) because I just love talking about ELP... I don't care if they feel the same way about them... heck I don't care if you feel the same way... but it makes me happy to talk about them... so i keep doing it.
Well, that's ok of course. But you don't seem to accept facts and dont seem to be willing to go back even a single step. It is good that you really love them, but discussions get useless if you're only goal is to counter the other people's arguments and aren't trying to think about them.
I will defend them to the death... and the fact that you can't see why I think they're the best band really doesn't matter( i said i DO understand why some people really love them)... it should be enough that you know I do... I've never bashed you for your opinion... just tried to point out that some of the comments you've made seemed questionable... whether language barrier or not.
and u came close to bashing other's opinion quite often, you're not saying comments are questionable but you're saying they're wrong.
And as far as no one else fighting so hard for their band... well thats not quite true either... Reed does a really good job for Rush, Ivan and quite a few here do for Genesis... and Fragile does a good job for Yes... but I do better for ELP..cause I'm a girl.. and cause I've had an actual relationship with one of them.... 
But the others actually do criticize their bands too, and don't say everything about them is perfect, I've never heard Ivan saying Invisible Touch isn't a bad album ...
But overall, take it easy, I don't want any fights, lol, but I think you're a bit exaggerating.
|
|
Bebe... I see you still don't get it....
|
THIS IS ELP 
|
|
BebieM
Forum Senior Member
Joined: November 01 2004
Location: Germany
Status: Offline
Points: 854
|
Posted: January 08 2005 at 03:50 |
hmm, ok, explain again 
|
|
threefates
Forum Senior Member
Joined: June 30 2004
Location: United States
Status: Offline
Points: 4215
|
Posted: January 08 2005 at 04:26 |
I'm female... when I say ELP are perfect... I mean ELP are perfect...
|
THIS IS ELP
|
|
dropForge
Forum Senior Member
Joined: April 24 2004
Location: United States
Status: Offline
Points: 608
|
Posted: January 08 2005 at 04:40 |
|
Hey, aren't you up kind of late...are you chatting with somebody in the UK or what?
|
|
Wrath_of_Ninian
Forum Senior Member
Joined: December 04 2004
Location: Scotland
Status: Offline
Points: 230
|
Posted: January 08 2005 at 04:42 |
Wait a minute Threefates, you've actually had a relationship with one of them? First you know Pete Sinfield and now this. Which 'one' was it (if thats not a stupid question)? Might it have been the guy in all the pictures at the bottom of all your posts?
Either you've started existing in an alternate universe or you're leading a pretty charmed existence. Just how well do you know these guys? - and does this have anything to do with your blunt (though entertaining) refusal to accept that some of the stuff they released was nothing short of mediocre?
|
|
Reed Lover
Forum Senior Member
Joined: July 16 2004
Location: Sao Tome and Pr
Status: Offline
Points: 5187
|
Posted: January 08 2005 at 06:56 |
Wrath_of_Ninian wrote:
Wait a minute Threefates, you've actually had a relationship with one of them? First you know Pete Sinfield and now this. Which 'one' was it (if thats not a stupid question)? Might it have been the guy in all the pictures at the bottom of all your posts?
|
Doh!
The Homer Simpson Award For Speed of Thought goes to
Wrath Of Ninian!
Edited by Reed Lover
|
|
|
|
Wrath_of_Ninian
Forum Senior Member
Joined: December 04 2004
Location: Scotland
Status: Offline
Points: 230
|
Posted: January 08 2005 at 09:41 |
I thank you.
I didn't realise it was common knowledge - jees, no wonder she's so touchy about ELP....
|
|
James Lee
Special Collaborator
Honorary Collaborator
Joined: June 05 2004
Status: Offline
Points: 3525
|
Posted: January 08 2005 at 13:38 |
don't worry about it...it took me a while to realize Easy Livin was a Uriah Heep fan. 
|
|
|
|
arcer
Prog Reviewer
Joined: September 01 2004
Location: United Kingdom
Status: Offline
Points: 1239
|
Posted: January 08 2005 at 13:44 |
|
bebie m wrote: I don't want to be the anti-ELP guy of
that forum
no, bebie that now would be me...
|
|
James Lee
Special Collaborator
Honorary Collaborator
Joined: June 05 2004
Status: Offline
Points: 3525
|
Posted: January 08 2005 at 13:51 |
get in line!
no, that's not totally true...I do like parts of their first album. Most of "Take a Pebble" and the fuzz bass on "The Barbarian", mainly. And I have no problem with the songs that most proggers disparage ("Lucky Man", "From the Beginning", etc.).
However, I can't stand most of BSS and the second side of Tarkus can really get me annoyed at times...
|
|
|
|
threefates
Forum Senior Member
Joined: June 30 2004
Location: United States
Status: Offline
Points: 4215
|
Posted: January 08 2005 at 15:38 |
You're all cursed... you know!
|
THIS IS ELP
|
|
Ivan_Melgar_M
Special Collaborator
Honorary Collaborator
Joined: April 27 2004
Location: Peru
Status: Offline
Points: 19535
|
Posted: January 08 2005 at 19:06 |
arcer wrote:
bebie m wrote: I don't want to be the anti-ELP guy of
that forum
no, bebie that now would be me... |
Nope, most of the posts I read are from people that like early ELP, some have troubles with Jerusalem, others with Tarkus, but mostly we like the great music they made once upon a time.
But I also noticed that most people here are not ready to believe in false gods (some don't even believe in a real God), most of us are ready to love the good stuff a band releases but have enough perspective to accept they sometimes screw it.
Of course some hate ELP, others hate Genesis or Yes, that's normal, we don't have the same exact taste thanks to God (The real one ).
Iván
Edited by ivan_2068
|
|
Bryan
Special Collaborator
Honorary Collaborator
Joined: April 01 2004
Status: Offline
Points: 3013
|
Posted: January 08 2005 at 19:18 |
threefates wrote:
You're all cursed... you know!
|
Either that, or Greg Lake's dashing charm has blinded you from ELP's inevitable mediocrity 
|
|
threefates
Forum Senior Member
Joined: June 30 2004
Location: United States
Status: Offline
Points: 4215
|
Posted: January 09 2005 at 00:38 |
Nah... I loved them before I loved him... 
|
THIS IS ELP
|
|
Donate monthly and keep PA fast-loading and ad-free forever.
/PAlogo_v2.gif "Progarchives.com Homepage")
Skill vs. Talent
