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Open-Mind
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Posted: October 15 2006 at 02:44 | |||
The Wall for me
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fairyliar
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Posted: October 15 2006 at 07:13 | |||
Alice Cooper-Welcome to My Nightmare
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billbuckner
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Posted: October 15 2006 at 08:40 | |||
One vote for Quadrophenia? You guys are being silly, right?
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Pnoom!
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Posted: October 15 2006 at 09:09 | |||
Billy the Mountain, however great of a song it is, is not a rock opera. It's simply a rock epic. |
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Forgotten Son
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Posted: October 15 2006 at 11:56 | |||
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Certif1ed
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Posted: October 15 2006 at 17:26 | |||
Jesus Christ Superstar.
None of those on the list are Rock operas. |
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eugene
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Posted: October 15 2006 at 17:28 | |||
I agree!
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Dick Heath
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Posted: October 16 2006 at 07:22 | |||
The borderline between concept and rock opera album appears to be tenuous. I also suspect when the poll is so short, that for few examples have been sampled/experienced. Elsewhere we continue to press folks to check out Kevin Gilbert's postumous masterpieceThe Shaming Of The True - recently staged in CA by Mike Keneally.
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Ricochet
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Posted: October 16 2006 at 07:27 | |||
sure they are. Tommy most designated. |
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Certif1ed
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Posted: October 16 2006 at 07:45 | |||
All together now... "Oh no they aren't!!!" "Tommy" may be "most designated", but it's still not an Opera. Edited by Certif1ed - October 16 2006 at 07:46 |
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Ricochet
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Posted: October 16 2006 at 07:48 | |||
It sounds a bit like a "musical" story. or are you taking the Opera word literally? out of interest, a "popular" list of (presumed?) rock-operas Notable rock operas
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BaldFriede
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Posted: October 16 2006 at 12:26 | |||
First of all there have to be different roles in a rock opera, preferably sung by different people. Else it is not a rock opera but a concept album. "Tommy" by the Who is an example, especially the soundtrack version (because different people sing on it). The best example for a rock opera is probably Peter Hammill's "The Fall of the House of Usher". The 1999 version of it even comes very close to being a real opera.
"Get 'em out by Friday" and "Harold the Barrel" by Genesis could be called "mini rock operas". |
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Guzzman
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Posted: October 16 2006 at 13:27 | |||
This is so difficult, because it's hard to differentiate between a rock-opera and a concept album. I agree with Friede that different roles sung by different people could be a point to make the difference (but keep in mind that there are different people/roles in Tommy, although Roger Daltrey took over all the parts in the original version; same applies - on a lower level - to Quadrophenia). And besides the soundtrack version of Tommy Friede mentioned one shouldn't forget the orchestral version with guest appearances by David Essex, Meggie Bell, the wonderful Sandy Denny, Steve Winwood, Rod Stewart, Richie Havens and Ringo Starr, which is pure opera I think.
A lot has been said about Jesus Christ Superstar and as I have been listening to that pretty much in the past few weeks I'd say that that one comes very close to being a rock-opera in every sense. But one cannot simply leave this thread without pointing to two marvelous albums, which very few of the younger progheads here will ever have heard of: SF Sorrow by The Pretty Things and Arthur by The Kinks. Edited by Guzzman - October 16 2006 at 13:28 |
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Cristi
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Posted: October 16 2006 at 14:42 | |||
all albums are great; but I can't help thinking of Jeff Wayne's War of the Worlds. Should have been on the list.
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gong
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Posted: October 16 2006 at 15:57 | |||
TOMMY.
thats rock opera were playing so many times in the many of the most serious theatres over the world - independent of The Who. Ken Russel's "Tommy" movie is the one of the greatest ART stuff in 20th century, etc.
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Certif1ed
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Posted: October 16 2006 at 17:16 | |||
Ah yes - Wikipedia, that most reliable source of information I'm taking the word Opera to mean what it means, of course - not what Wikipedia says it means. Check Grove's encyclopaedia The literal meaning is "work", but the musical sense is quite different. "Tommy", for example, is a rock musical, just as "Les Miserables" or "Cats" are musicals and not opera. Edited by Certif1ed - October 17 2006 at 02:32 |
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Posted: October 17 2006 at 04:16 | |||
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