Veganism...

What's your bloodgroup?

I'm not a vegan and I can't really see any reason to refuse eating any food produced by animals, but I have no problem with people being vegans, why would I? It's up to them to decide what they want to eat and what they don't want to eat. Besides, it means more tasty meat, cheese etc. for me and others who enjoy eating such food.

I didn't vote, as there is no "indifferent" option.


Edited by Philéas - February 08 2007 at 13:40

Anyone who has a minimum knowledge of biology will easily realize that human teeth are the teeth of an omnivore and not of a vegetarian. The same is true for the digestive tract (if humans were vegetarians by nature their digestive tract would have to be at least double as long as it is). Also human beings lack an enzyme that is able to crack cellulose. All these are clear signs that human beings are defintely NOT vegetarians, so anyone who tries to sell me the idea of  veganism will be looked at sceptically by me. Why should it be healthy to clearly live against ones nature? No book that I know of that tries to sell the idea of vegetarianism or veganism cares about these obvious biological facts, which for me automatically invalidates their content.
Nevertheless it is a fact that the quota of meat in the diet of many people is too high. As noted before, human beings are omnivores and not carnivores.


Edited by BaldFriede - February 08 2007 at 20:30

Oh, and by the way: It should also be noted that if all people were vegetarians we would have to cut down a LOT more forests than we alreday do, just to provide the necessary areas of cultivable land to feed all of humanity. A fact that Albert Einstein already pointed out when asked about his opinion about vegetarianism. Cutting down more forests, however, is definitely not what the world needs; the forests are, for example, the biggest reservoirs of sweet water we have. They also play an important role in the regulation of the climate. So it is not only from a personal point of view that I reject vegetarianism and veganism, but also from an ecological point of view.

Edited by BaldFriede - February 08 2007 at 15:33

WaywardSon wrote: I remember reading somewhere that we cut down a lot of forests in order to make fields for cattle to graze.

That's true, but by far not as much as we would have to cut down if we were all vegetarians. The nutritional value of one acre of pasture land is about ten times as high as the nutritional value of one acre of farmland.

BaldFriede wrote: Anyone who has a minimum knowledge of biology will easily realize that human teeth are the teeth of an omnivore and not of a vegetarian. The same is true for the digestive track (if humans were vegetarians by nature their digestive track would have to be at least double as long as it is). Also human beings lack an enzyme that is able to crack cellulose. All these are clear signs that human beings are defintely NOT vegetarians, so anyone who tries to sell me the idea of  veganism will be looked at sceptically by me. Why should it be healthy to clearly live against ones nature? No book that I know of that tries to sell the idea of vegetarianism or veganism cares about these obvious biological facts, which for me automatically invalidates their content. Nevertheless it is a fact that the quota of meat in the diet of many people is too high. As noted before, human beings are omnivores and not carnivores.

BaldFriede wrote: WaywardSon wrote: I remember reading somewhere that we cut down a lot of forests in order to make fields for cattle to graze. That's true, but by far not as much as we would have to cut down if we were all vegetarians. The nutritional value of one acre of pasture land is about ten times as high as the nutritional value of one acre of farmland.

wow...today she handed out stickers adn PETA booklets, and denyed every charge against PETA, stating they didn't happen, just people for some odd reason had somethign against PETA and only PETA. She's an idiot. She didn't even make me mad today--I quit listening to her.

I do not like the fact that she claimed to mention freedom for the individual however, and then blatantly stated that she would raise her children in a fascist way--never allowing them to eat meat under her roof.

I almost argued with her, but realised how fruitless it would've been, and went back to developing pictures of cats and whatnot.

BladFreide had some very good points on vegetarianism/veganism...I'd have to say that both are out of the question for me. Meat is good, and I could never convert to a cause that becomes so close minded.

Many I've met treat veganism like an organized religion--much like christianity. They feel their opinion is sarced and correct and hand out pamplets recruiting unsuspecting people...it's stupid and it sucks. For a group that is trying to support individuality and freedom, they sure are a little bunch of neo-nazis (generally, as mentioned before a few of my friends are vegetarian and one of them vegan...they're fine, but they do get defensive over the subject...I just never ask about it--at least they don't go around preaching).

I remember being at an outdoor concert one time and saw a guy wearing a shirt that said PETA on the front. I rolled my eyes, but as he got closer I noticed it said something underneath: People Eating Tasty Animals.

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I support veganism. In fact, I'd like to use this opportunity to thank them for leaving more meat to us omni-/carnivores