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keith_emerson 
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Posted: February 12 2007 at 10:28 |
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I have been "consuming" VdGG music for a while and I really enjoy it, so I decided to try Peter Hammill solo career.
To my disappointment, I fond it AWFUL but really disgusting!
So I want to know what's your opinion....
PD: I have heard Silent Corner... and Chameleon.... that's representative, isn't it?...
Ah, and I liked Forsaken Gardens, but just that...
Edited by keith_emerson - February 12 2007 at 10:31
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CANterbury
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Posted: February 12 2007 at 10:37 |
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...Peter Hammill is a genius..
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MattiR
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Posted: February 12 2007 at 10:42 |
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VDGG.
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dAJaro
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Posted: February 12 2007 at 11:38 |
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his solo career is awesome. i love both his solo stuff and his vdgg performance equally.
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Spacemac
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Posted: February 12 2007 at 11:51 |
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Yes, same feeling
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Fassbinder
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Posted: February 12 2007 at 11:55 |
VdGG career and Peter Hammill solo career are rather different things. They shouldn't be compared, in my opinion. The music and arrangements for VdGG are written for the group. They are impossible to be maped into the solo albums. And vice versa.
Van der Graaf Generator have wonderful compositions which Hammill solo is unable to create. Hammill solo has wonderful compositions which VdGG as a band is unable to create.
I enjoy both careers. I do have a right to judge, since I own them in their entireties. They are incomparable also because of the mere fact that Hammill solo career lasts already 35 years, without breaks, which means that it covers such different periods like 70s, 80s. 90s, and new century. Let's say, he had more opportunities to create some weak albums as well as some great ones. VdGG's discography is very compact, both in terms of numbers and in terms of years.
To crown it all, I think that the first option of the poll fits my feeling the most. I have no clear preference on either Van der Graaf Generator or Peter Hammill.
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febus
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Posted: February 12 2007 at 11:56 |
Except s few songs on ''chameleon, ''in Camera'', and ''Silent Corner'', it stinks. Always the same stuff repeated and repeated at nauseam.with over the top vocals. A very suffering man, i don't need to feel the pain with him. 
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keith_emerson
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Posted: February 12 2007 at 12:15 |
 febus wrote:
Except s few songs on ''chameleon, ''in Camera'', and ''Silent Corner'', it stinks. Always the same stuff repeated and repeated at nauseam.with over the top vocals. A very suffering man, i don't need to feel the pain with him. |
Edited by keith_emerson - February 12 2007 at 12:15
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BaldFriede
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Posted: February 12 2007 at 13:42 |
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With some 40+ solo albums over the years, there are weaker and stronger albums among them, but none that I would give less than 3 stars. If one expects Hammill solo to be a copy of VdGG, then he will be disappointed; only very few songs, like "(In the) Black Room) or "A Louse is not a Home" sound like VdGG. The closest Hammill comes to sounding like VdGG is on the album "Roaring Forties", in my opinion. Some of his solo albums are pure genius, especially "The Fall of the House of Usher" in the 1999 version, which in my opinion is one of the three best albums ever made (the other two being "Fairy Tales" by Mother Gong and "Xitintoday" by Nik Turner's Sphynx).
I miss the vote for "I like them equally", by the way.
Edited by BaldFriede - February 12 2007 at 13:43
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mixmastermorris
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Posted: February 17 2007 at 08:38 |
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Too much Angst in his pants, for sure
But eg 'The Future Now' is an amazing album... wild sonic
experimentation as well ....
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Zargus
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Posted: February 17 2007 at 11:11 |
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Vdgg is my favorite prog band and hammill is by far my favorite prog solo artist, and i like them equally. I for one find his sometimes depresing stuff very uplifting it feels good to lisen to it days when eveything feels like sh*t for me.
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