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Points: 1751 		Direct Link To This Post Posted: June 02 2007 at 19:45
Originally posted by hdfisch hdfisch wrote:

I received a (automated) message at my common email address from Max a few days ago welcoming me back at the site since I haven't posted anything since quite a while. I don't think it would make any sense to respond to this directly so here's my response publicly in the forum:
Forth: The reason why this site sucks for me since a while is mainly because it's full of people thinking only music that sounds like being done in the 70's is good music and therefore considered Prog (which should equal to progressive but in fact is regressive). Most music usually being referred to Prog is actually anything than progressive, but rather retro (which isn't bad at all once in a while and in fact there are very good bands doing this style like Gargamel i.e.). I just find it hilarious to call some music progressive which is just doing something that had been already 30 years ago. In my humble opinion nowadays there are just a few genres in rock music bearing some progression and those are
Metal (but not the kinda Prog-Metal stuff by DT etc.)
Jazz-Fusion (with Metal or Rock)
and Avant Prog.
Everything else listed here is either Proto-Prog, 70's Prog, Retro- (or even worse Neo-)Prog and some mix between Alternative and Art Rock (usually called Prog-related).

Just my own summary and opinion. Never mind!


I agree that prog today is in some crisis, I don't consider many band today labelled prog as prog but rather Sympphonic rock; why? because its not breaking ground, just like techno today was progressive in the 70s (Kraftwerk etc), but its no longer prog.
My logic is why do we have Spock's Beard on the archives but no techno bands, both are logical evolutions of progressive rock but neither are progressive.



  
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Points: 4252 		Direct Link To This Post Posted: June 02 2007 at 19:46
hey Dieter you got an interesting thread going - don't leave us now LOL
 
 
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Points: 1494 		Direct Link To This Post Posted: June 02 2007 at 19:54
Eh, fair enough.
 
If you want to stop getting those emails, I suggest you change the email address stored on your profile. I'm pretty sure they're automated and if M@x wants to keep sending them, he'll send them to everyone (or everyone who hasn't logged in in a while). There was one forum that sent me emails constantly until I changed my email to a fake one.
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Points: 7910 		Direct Link To This Post Posted: June 02 2007 at 20:02
Originally posted by hdfisch hdfisch wrote:

Thanks for the straight answer. The fact is: I WILL GO AWAY!I guess no one gonna miss the crap I posted in my reviews!Wink


To be honest, I never knew you existed until today.

Too bad you feel this way; however, if you think this site really sucks, it's threads like this that really brings it down.

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Points: 7910 		Direct Link To This Post Posted: June 02 2007 at 20:06
Originally posted by hdfisch hdfisch wrote:

To be clear once again:I do NOT like commercial music!Any non-commercial music = PROG is just bullsh*t!I'm listening to many non-Prog bands multiple times and still find them interesting!I'm listening to SOME Prog bands multiple times and still find them boring!Not necessarily all music called Prog is interesting!


Hey, you hear that? That's the sound of us all not giving a #@$*!

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Points: 7374 		Direct Link To This Post Posted: June 02 2007 at 20:23
Sorry you feel that way mate, but do us all a favor and make your exit speedy.

I do agree that I do have better things to do with my time than endlessly discuss albums and argue what prog is and isn't, but that hardly makes this site suck. It's a wonderful resource headed by a lot of passionate and dedicated people who have really made this a great place to discover good music. I disappeared for quite a few months and was pleasantly surprised with how much progress the site has made and how much it's grown upon a more steady return. I feel it's a good thing when we have repeated polls and discussions because most of the time it's from newer members, which means the site's membership is growing- bear with them! But anyways, there's always going to be discussions and conflicts on what is and isn't "prog" because that's a logical result when you attempt to define genres and then place bands in them. Not every band is going to perfectly fit into a specified genre, so there's bound to be conflict. Be that as it may, I think PA has done a great job handling that- it helps people unfamiliar with progressive music get a feel for the different types it has to offer. It's not perfect, but what is?
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Points: 11979 		Direct Link To This Post Posted: June 02 2007 at 20:23

Well I'm really glad that Mr Hdfisch popped by with his message of love.

If that had been TLC posting we'd have accused him of posting whilst "drunk". (Sorry Brian)

M@x's mass-emailing seems to have got up everyone's nose.
For the record I got the email 4 times for some reason.
 

 



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Points: 8238 		Direct Link To This Post Posted: June 02 2007 at 20:27
I think hdfish is actually Lindsey Lohan writing from rehab.  Good luck with that, LL!
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I love the new thread title.Clown
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I received this email yesterday, even though I had been posting probably my best reviews since I arrived with my revision of all but one of The Doors' albums (since that sixth one I reviewed months ago)... How could it be? Or does it mean that it seems like we're gone when we don't post in the forum (as my posting rate has clearly decreased).... CryCryCryCry 
 
I want to make an exhibition of myself though. I don't know what that means but let's do it. Big%20smile
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Points: 1377 		Direct Link To This Post Posted: June 03 2007 at 04:14
Originally posted by The T The T wrote:

I want to make an exhibition of myself though. I don't know what that means but let's do it. Big%20smile

It means we have to hang you on the wall and stare at you for hours on end wondering what the hell you are meant to be ....
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Points: 19752 		Direct Link To This Post Posted: June 03 2007 at 06:07
Originally posted by Tony R Tony R wrote:

Well I'm really glad that Mr Hdfisch popped by with his message of love.

If that had been TLC posting we'd have accused him of posting whilst "drunk". (Sorry Brian)

M@x's mass-emailing seems to have got up everyone's nose.
For the record I got the email 4 times for some reason.
 

 

 
I must say that even general forums , Prog Ears members that never posted here got the e-mail also. There is even a thread about it in PE.  I also received it, BTW.
 
I'm not sure this "spamming" is wise.DeadDead
 
 
 
Dieter,
 
you used to be an active member and if memory serves, a pretty good one (and for a while one of my preferred member) Smile
 
I can understand why one gets tired of forum life , and I have seen this site not always heading in directions I approved of, also. So I can understand why you would choose not to post in the forum (or even post reviews) , but to come backwith such an aggressive tone in respond to M@X's unwise spamming is rather unlike you. OuchShocked
 
And just in case, your angry response and return to the forum just proved that M@X's spamming works and can only encourage him further.Thumbs%20Down
 
 
 
BTW, some of your reviews helped me discovered some stuff I didn't know.
 
 
 
 
let's just stay above the moral melee
prefer the sink to the gutter
keep our sand-castle virtues
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as well as a thinker,
prefer lifting our pen
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Points: 1494 		Direct Link To This Post Posted: June 03 2007 at 14:20
Originally posted by Tony R Tony R wrote:

M@x's mass-emailing seems to have got up everyone's nose.
For the record I got the email 4 times for some reason.
Mass-emails are rarely liked.
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Points: 13032 		Direct Link To This Post Posted: June 04 2007 at 01:54
I like your avatar!! Big%20smile

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Points: 1009 		Direct Link To This Post Posted: June 17 2007 at 01:09
I didn't get that email. Hmmm... I wonder what that means.
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