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DallasBryan
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Topic: TODD Posted: March 02 2005 at 22:12 |
anybody care for this artist? with song titles like this I thought he may be prog. Black Maria You Need Your Head Rock And Roll Pu**y Dogfight Giggle Zen Archer Heavy Metal Kids Lord Chancellor's Nightmare Song King Kong Reggae Out of Control Real Man Born to Synthesize A Treatise On Cosmic Fire and of course theres a whole different career with Utopia
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Bryan
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Posted: March 02 2005 at 22:44 |
Mr. Rundgren does have a couple of solo albums that I'd say are undeniably prog, the main one being the psychedelic masterpiece A Wizard/A True Star. Not sure if it's enough to warrant adding him to the archives though.
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DallasBryan
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Posted: March 02 2005 at 22:47 |
no archives, just discussion. Utopia is already in there, but scattered in Todds work is some great prog. Wizard, A True Star, Todd and Initiation have their share of goodies.
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Possessed
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Posted: March 02 2005 at 23:23 |
I've listened to the Something/Anything album.
Black Maria
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Trotsky
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Posted: March 03 2005 at 00:42 |
I always find myself wishing he'd drawn a clearer line and did all his prog stuff with Utopia and all his sweet 70s pop-rock solo ... but then he wouldn't be Todd would he?
Yes, there are progressive elements right from that eerie 9 minute song on Runt all the way to some exciting stuff on his live album Back To The Bars ...
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"Death to Utopia! Death to faith! Death to love! Death to hope?" thunders the 20th century. "Surrender, you pathetic dreamer.” "No" replies the unhumbled optimist "You are only the present."
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Dick Heath
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Posted: March 03 2005 at 06:50 |
DallasBryan wrote:
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Real Man
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My favourite song! Love Edgar Winter's electric sax playing on Inititation
And TR's (stunt?) guitarwork on the Meatloaf's tune Bat Out Of Hell is a shot up the proverbial.
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Fragile
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Posted: March 03 2005 at 07:12 |
Rundgren is a Genius, saw him in Glasgow last summer he was awesome.Have been a Todd fan for many long summers.He is a fantastic guitarist.
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slipperman
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Posted: March 03 2005 at 08:02 |
If you take his entire solo output into account, only a small percentage is prog or prog-ish. The 'A Wizard/A True Star' and 'Todd' albums probably have most of his prog side showing...and this is right around the time he formed Utopia to get it out of his system.
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mirco
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Posted: March 03 2005 at 08:04 |
Dick Heath wrote:
DallasBryan wrote:
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Real Man
Utopia |
My favourite song! Love Edgar Winter's electric sax playing on Inititation
And TR's (stunt?) guitarwork on the Meatloaf's tune Bat Out Of Hell is a shot up the proverbial. |
Now that you bring in Meatloaf, what do you people think about it? Completely rubbish, or great singer? I kinda like him, even if I recognize that may be consider a shame for the rock scene...
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Please forgive me for my crappy english!
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slipperman
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Posted: March 03 2005 at 08:10 |
RUBBISH.
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...it is real...it is Rael...
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Easy Livin
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Posted: March 03 2005 at 14:43 |
Trotsky wrote:
I always find myself wishing he'd drawn a clearer line and did all his prog stuff with Utopia and all his sweet 70s pop-rock solo ... but then he wouldn't be Todd would he?
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Have to agree there Trotsky, sometimes he's just too damn diverse! You never know what to expect when you buy an album by him or Utopia. A fine prog album can be followed by a Beatles take off!
For me, "Ra" was his best album, very prog, and excellent throughout.
(Love "Bat out of hell" by the way, and I don't care who knows it.)
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Beau Heem
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Posted: March 03 2005 at 14:49 |
Dick Heath wrote:
DallasBryan wrote:
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Real Man
Utopia |
My favourite song! Love Edgar Winter's electric sax playing on Inititation
And TR's (stunt?) guitarwork on the Meatloaf's tune Bat Out Of Hell is a shot up the proverbial. |
I'm a fan of Rundgren's music. But Edgar Winter is just out-bloody-rageously great.
Fkuc, I even started smoking cigarettes because of Tobacco Road...
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mirco
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Posted: March 03 2005 at 15:25 |
Easy Livin wrote:
(Love "Bat out of hell" by the way, and I don't care who knows it.) |
So we are two against the world!
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Please forgive me for my crappy english!
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ShrinkingViolet
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Posted: March 03 2005 at 16:11 |
Rundgren is an under-rated genius! I saw him in Glasgow last year and was like a dream come true, and the concert was absolutely fantastic this man is multi talented. Todd is Godd, i got hooked from the first song i heard by him - Black Mariah..then it was Tiny demons...the rare cd's bootlegs ive got and dvds are great . Versatile and tremendous...I love him.. maybe i seen you at the gig fragile ...LoL
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Posted: March 03 2005 at 18:04 |
A Treatise On Cosmic Fire from Initiation - 35 minutes of pure prog wizardry. I don't think he can be called out and out prog, but when he put his mind to it he was up there with the best of them.
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DallasBryan
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Posted: March 04 2005 at 12:21 |
He was active as a recording engineer and a record producer. Among the artists he has worked with are The Band, Jesse Winchester, Badfinger (the # 14 hit "Baby Blue" in 1972), Grand Funk Railroad (the # 1 hit "We're An American Band" in 1973), The New York Dolls, The Tubes, Cheap Trick, Patti Smith, Hall & Oates, Alice Cooper and Meat Loaf. Willie Wilcox's rock steady drum beat drives "Hammer In My Heart," written by all the band's members with a lead vocal by Todd (who sounds like Robin Zander of Cheap Trick on this tune): "There's a hammer in my heart / pounding out your name / ... / it's like a Top Ten song / I hear it all day long / I try to turn it off / but the beat goes on..." I like that song. ---------------------- I dont wanna work I just want to bang on the drum all day.
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