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Poll Question: What classic prog album you would like to extend?
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    Posted: September 09 2007 at 23:09
Originally posted by Thandrus Thandrus wrote:

For me it was waaaay long. Unhappy
 
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For me it was waaaay long. Unhappy
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A Farwell to Kings was way short.
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Originally posted by Ghost Rider Ghost Rider wrote:



Seriously, though... I think 80-minute-long albums are usually way too long. It's like very long novels... No one, even the best writer, can sustain the same level of quality for too long, and a longer duration inevitably means more filler.
Agree -- if we're back to talking MUSIC nowWink, usually less is more, as they say.

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Originally posted by Peter Peter wrote:

I hear that ol tantric-pants Sting has the power to make "it" last much more than 80 minutes! Shocked
 
Ermm Of course, excessive alcohol consumption can have that prolonging, "pounding away half the night to no avail" effect as well.... 
 
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You know, Peter, too much of a good thing can be... too much, sometimes!TongueWinkLOL
(Better stop at that... I don't want to get censored!)

Seriously, though... I think 80-minute-long albums are usually way too long. It's like very long novels... No one, even the best writer, can sustain the same level of quality for too long, and a longer duration inevitably means more filler.
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Ermm Hmmm... what madness have I unwittingly wrought with that post? The advertisement below now says unique tool.

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I hear that ol tantric-pants Sting has the power to make "it" last much more than 80 minutes! Shocked
 
Ermm Of course, excessive alcohol consumption can have that prolonging, "pounding away half the night to no avail" effect as well.... 
 
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Edited by Peter - September 09 2007 at 15:28
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You know what I wanna see?  An eighty minute Yes album...
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Thanks but no thanks, if anything, songs should combine more lush qualities in more limited time periods. Flower King fans will disagree with me, of course.
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Originally posted by 1800iareyay 1800iareyay wrote:

I'd rather have a 40 minute masterpiece than an 80 minute good album because it got pumped full of filler


I couldn't agree more. I have a bit of an issue with the tendency of modern, particularly Symphonic, Prog bands to fill every last second of a CD, they lose a lot of impact that way and I end up feeling like it's a chore to get to the end of the album.

Personally I feel 40-50 minutes is the optimum length for an album, though there are of course exceptions.
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I love many of those albums as they are. I wouldn't make them longer, after all, there's plenty of good music to not be unsatisfyed, isn't it?
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My New version of  "Selling England By The Pound" (Without "More fool me" LOL)
 
Dancing with the Moonlit Knight
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I Know What I Like (In Your Wardrobe)
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The Return of Giant Hogweed
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Best Genesis album by far LOL
 
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Points: 681 		Direct Link To This Post Posted: September 08 2007 at 01:59
Thick as a brick...I could listen not only 80 mins but even more with the same pleasure I listen the current 43 mins

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Who's Next (conceived as Lifehouse) was released as a single album but it has since become clear that there was more than enough material for a double album. Extended versions of Baba O'Riley and Wont Get Fooled Again would continue to make perfect bookends..
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You need none as an option.
 
These albums were complete as they were, wouldn't change them at all.

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I'd like to know what to mean by extending an album: Just adding couple of songs until it takes 80min. or extending the pieces?
 
In the first case I'd wish to extend Moonmadness... I think it has such natural flow that it would be great to be listened more than 40 minutes...
 
If we talk about extending the tracks, almost whole Berlin School electronic needs to be extended I think... 25 minutes on each side aren't enough fo me LOL 
 
From the list... Even unextended versions of Foxtrot irritates me... Angry And I can't get in others except Tull, Yes and KC albums. So Larks' Tonques would be interesting to extend (and not too hard 'cause it's pretty much improvised) but also more hard for our ears to get into it.
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I'd love some more of A Farewell to Kings. And it would be great if Hemispheres was a little longer too.
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Points: 7374 		Direct Link To This Post Posted: August 07 2007 at 21:05
Originally posted by micky micky wrote:


Originally posted by Melomaniac Melomaniac wrote:

Originally posted by micky micky wrote:

Originally posted by 1800iareyay 1800iareyay wrote:

For all I know Cygnus 1 and 2 were written at the same time.
maybe one of our Rush freaks could pipe in on that.... they don't sound the same or are written in the same style, at least to me. I don't think they were written at the same time.

 

To the best of my knowledge, back in those days, Rush wrote in the studio and recorded immediately.  The songs that did not make an album were dropped permanently.  Which is also why we will never have a unreleased collection by Rush.

 

Also worthy of mention ; in Martin Popoff's book, "Contents Under Pressure : 30 Years of Rush" it is nowhere said that Cygnus X-1 Book 1 and 2 were written at the same time.  They only borrowed some themes from book one for book two.
even the themes sort of  get lost between them.... forgive me for forgetting ... much like a nightmare of sorts what Peart was trying to say. Like many.. I listen to Rush for the music and tune out the lyrics. But wasn't Book 1 about flying into a black hole and Book 2 some exposition into Greek mythology or some sh*t like that.


I always thought that the astronaut dude turned into Cygnus after being sucked through the black hole, going back in time (or the future) and seeing he battle or whatever. But yeah, they don't flow too well together.
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I believe he is referring to musical themes (melodies, riffs, etc.) rather than lyrical ones.  

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