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Direct Link To This Post Posted: May 22 2008 at 08:38
Originally posted by Proletariat Proletariat wrote:

Originally posted by Relayer09 Relayer09 wrote:

Originally posted by Proletariat Proletariat wrote:

Originally posted by crimhead crimhead wrote:

Ted Kennedy's tumor is big news for the reason that he has been in the senate for so long. Only one member has been in longer than Ted and that's Robert Byrd. I have never understood why we make our President serve a maximum of 2 terms but we allow our senate and congress to have lifetime jobs as long as they bring the pork home to their states and districts. Doesn't seem logical to have lifelong servants of the people while the ones they are serving cannot be guaranteed the same. 
Bullsh*t, they arn't lifelong servants, they can be if they get realected. The house of representitives must be realected every two years and the senate must face election every 6. they must do a good job in order to be realected the same way their constituents must work to hold their jobs.
 
The same thing could be held true for Presidents as well. If the voters decide a president is doing a good job they should also be allowed to vote for that same President beyond two terms.
The differance is that presidents need more checks because they alone head the executive branch. the legislative branch dosn't need term limits on individual members because the head of the legislative branch is not one person, rather it is 535 seperate people divided into two seperate houses. A senator is only 1/100 of the senate and a house rep. is only 1/435 of the house and nither the house or the senate can get anything done without the other. There wouldn't need to be term limits on the executive if we gave up the whole "leader" Idea and instituted a council of hundreds of representitives. But because our founding fathers wanted to be taken seriously by the other countries at the time they felt they needed to install one man to represent the country. After FDR had his four term presidency the republicans got pissed off and pushed for term limits, wich while instituted for stupid reasons do serve as a usefull check on the powers of the president.
 
Personally, if I had a choice of putting a president such as FDR or Ronald Reagan back in office for a third term I would much rather have that option than having to pick from any of the three bozos still in contention in this election.
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Direct Link To This Post Posted: May 22 2008 at 18:38
Originally posted by Relayer09 Relayer09 wrote:

 
Personally, if I had a choice of putting a president such as FDR or Ronald Reagan back in office for a third term I would much rather have that option than having to pick from any of the three bozos still in contention in this election.


Yeah, but we'd have to dig them up and I don't think they smell so good no more. Dead
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Direct Link To This Post Posted: May 22 2008 at 21:59
Originally posted by Slartibartfast Slartibartfast wrote:

Originally posted by Relayer09 Relayer09 wrote:

 
Personally, if I had a choice of putting a president such as FDR or Ronald Reagan back in office for a third term I would much rather have that option than having to pick from any of the three bozos still in contention in this election.


Yeah, but we'd have to dig them up and I don't think they smell so good no more. Dead
 
Reagan would be as smart today as he was when....well.....um. Nevermind.
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Direct Link To This Post Posted: May 23 2008 at 08:01
Hey, didn't you start this thread saying you were listening to Michael Savage?
For the love of God, please don't. LOL


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Direct Link To This Post Posted: May 23 2008 at 13:20
Originally posted by Slartibartfast Slartibartfast wrote:

Hey, didn't you start this thread saying you were listening to Michael Savage?
For the love of God, please don't. LOL


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He's funny. I like how he bashes the other right wing know-it-all's. He has some valid points and yes he is firmly planted in the conservative US ideals of the 50's. But I need balance. I can't believe that any one party or person has all the answers.
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Direct Link To This Post Posted: May 23 2008 at 16:12
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I can't believe that any one party or person has all the answers.


OK, it's obvious you haven't had a proper brainwashing. Tongue
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Direct Link To This Post Posted: May 23 2008 at 16:43
Originally posted by Slartibartfast Slartibartfast wrote:

Originally posted by crimhead crimhead wrote:

I can't believe that any one party or person has all the answers.


OK, it's obvious you haven't had a proper brainwashing. Tongue


I'm not one of those kool-aid drinkers that watches FauxNews or those Didiots that listen to Rush.
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Direct Link To This Post Posted: May 24 2008 at 20:37
Originally posted by crimhead crimhead wrote:

Originally posted by Slartibartfast Slartibartfast wrote:

Originally posted by crimhead crimhead wrote:

I can't believe that any one party or person has all the answers.


OK, it's obvious you haven't had a proper brainwashing. Tongue


I'm not one of those kool-aid drinkers that watches FauxNews or those Didiots that listen to Rush.
 
Air America and MSNBC are so much better! Oh wait Air America went bankrupt and I don't think anyone watches MSNBC anymore. Well there's always the Bob & Tom show. LOL
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Direct Link To This Post Posted: May 24 2008 at 21:08
Originally posted by Relayer09 Relayer09 wrote:

Originally posted by crimhead crimhead wrote:

Originally posted by Slartibartfast Slartibartfast wrote:

Originally posted by crimhead crimhead wrote:

I can't believe that any one party or person has all the answers.


OK, it's obvious you haven't had a proper brainwashing. Tongue


I'm not one of those kool-aid drinkers that watches FauxNews or those Didiots that listen to Rush.
 
Air America and MSNBC are so much better! Oh wait Air America went bankrupt and I don't think anyone watches MSNBC anymore. Well there's always the Bob & Tom show. LOL


True about Air America but if you believe the numbers MSNBC is holding it's own and beating FauxNews in the important numbers. It appears that Bill O's audience is either dying off or they're growing tired of him.

As to Bob & Tom I grew tired of them years ago. Same schtick week after week.
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Direct Link To This Post Posted: May 24 2008 at 22:06
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"In a hotel room in Brussels, the chief executives of the world’s top oil companies unrolled
a huge map of the Middle East, drew a fat, red line around Iraq and signed their names to it.

The map, the red line, the secret signatures. It explains this war.
It explains this week’s rocketing of the price of oil to $134 a barrel.

It happened on July 31, 1928, but the bill came due now.

In 1928, oil company chieftains were faced with a crisis: falling prices due to rising supplies of oil;
the same crisis faced by their successors during the Clinton years, when oil traded at $22 a barrel.

The solution then, as now: stop the flow of oil, squeeze the market, raise the price.
The method: put a red line around Iraq and declare that virtually all the oil under its sands
would remain there, untapped. Their plan: choke supply, raise prices rise, boost profits.
That was the program for 1928. For 2003. For 2008.

I wish to hell the Democrats would call their plan what it is: A war profiteering tax.
War is profitable business – if you’re an oil man. But somehow, the public pays the price,
at the pump and at the funerals, and the oil companies reap the benefits."
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Direct Link To This Post Posted: May 25 2008 at 09:46

Oil has risen in conjunction with the increased demand of China and India. Supply has gone down because of these two countries increasing demand thus raising prices. My next car is going to be a hydrogen fuel cell and I'll give our friends at OPEC the big middle finger.

http://www.hydrogencarsnow.com/chevy-equinox-fuel-cell-suv.htm

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Direct Link To This Post Posted: May 25 2008 at 12:22
Originally posted by Relayer09 Relayer09 wrote:

Oil has risen in conjunction with the increased demand of China and India. Supply has gone down because of these two countries increasing demand thus raising prices. My next car is going to be a hydrogen fuel cell and I'll give our friends at OPEC the big middle finger.

http://www.hydrogencarsnow.com/chevy-equinox-fuel-cell-suv.htm



Isn't hydrogen fuel supposed to be almost as expensive as the current price of regular gasoline?


I'd rather get an old diesel car and fuel it with hemp and grease.
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Direct Link To This Post Posted: May 25 2008 at 13:47
From what I've read you are correct.  And don't you think these wise guys don't have it their capability to keep it that way?
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Direct Link To This Post Posted: May 25 2008 at 14:12
I still say grow hemp for fuel like our grandfathers did. Simple solution.

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Direct Link To This Post Posted: May 25 2008 at 18:04
I say we turn over our entire agricultural production to making ethanol, thereby bringing about a revolution, and finally absolute destruction of a civilization that refuses to pay the price for its' insistence on burying its' collective head in the sand when it comes to facing such issues.
For God's sake, walk, bike, take public transit, car pool. This seems to be a small (so far) trend in the U.S. . Who knows, if the consumer refuses to consume or cuts back on the use of a (supposedly) overpriced commodity, maybe the price will come down. And if it doesn't well ... you're still paying less, cause you're using it less.
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Direct Link To This Post Posted: May 25 2008 at 23:14
Originally posted by BroSpence BroSpence wrote:

Originally posted by Relayer09 Relayer09 wrote:

Oil has risen in conjunction with the increased demand of China and India. Supply has gone down because of these two countries increasing demand thus raising prices. My next car is going to be a hydrogen fuel cell and I'll give our friends at OPEC the big middle finger.

http://www.hydrogencarsnow.com/chevy-equinox-fuel-cell-suv.htm



Isn't hydrogen fuel supposed to be almost as expensive as the current price of regular gasoline?


I'd rather get an old diesel car and fuel it with hemp and grease.
 
Every new technology is expensive when first hitting the marketplace. Computers, CD players, etc were all expensive at their introduction but now they're relatively cheap because most everyone has one. I don't see planet earth ever having a shortage of hydrogen and if there ever is one we'll all be dead and it won't really matter. Burning hemp and grease still produce emissions and contribute to global warming whereas hydrogen has no such emissions. Now if we can get the oil lobbyists out of the pocket of our politicians we may become self reliant on energy and have a cleaner enviroment someday.
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