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alanerc 
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 Topic: Howe or ZappaPosted: August 27 2008 at 22:40 |
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Zappa !!!
It's way hard to me to like his music, not all albums, some of them, but once Zappa got you, you can't stop  |
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peskypesky
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Posted: August 27 2008 at 20:44 |
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Howe, by a mile and a half. His range of styles and influences, from classical to country to ragtime, puts him in a category by himself in my opinion. A man who can write "Mood For A Day" and "Clap", and then play stuff like "Soundchaser" and "Going For The One"? Just ridiculous, and I mean that in a good way.
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Prog fan since 1974.
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febus
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Posted: August 27 2008 at 19:38 |
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Now i understand better, that's clearer in my mind and understand you point of view
  i agree! |
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Sacred 22
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Posted: August 27 2008 at 17:35 |
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Sacred 22
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Posted: August 27 2008 at 17:34 |
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We all have our different tastes of course, but I think Steve Howe is in a leauge all his own when it come to the guitar. Oh I know lots will point to Hendrix and Page, but you must remember that the hype those guys got was second to none. Howe has talent in spades and covers all styles extremely well. The others shine in their own right, but they don't exhibit the the multi-facited styles of a Steve Howe. Howe is what I would call the complete guitar player.
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Sacred 22
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Posted: August 27 2008 at 17:26 |
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Both are very accomplished guitar players of course but Steve Howe is much more diversified and can play anything from country to classical and everything in betweeen. His Acoustic playing alone puts him ahead of Mr Zappa. That being said, Frank's compositional skills show off his incredible diversity.
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BroSpence
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Posted: August 26 2008 at 23:38 |
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Zappa's guitar playing was pretty cool, but overall I'd say my heart is with Howe. He has played so many incredible things and has made many great harmonic choices. His solos are always well structured, and sweet.
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Philip
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Posted: August 26 2008 at 17:21 |
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Zappa is the best creator, but Steve Howe is simply one of the greatest guitarists of all time, if not the best, in my opinion.
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darkshade
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Posted: August 26 2008 at 16:11 |
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I choose Zappa,but not just for his guitar skills. Obviously Howe is the better player because he was classically trained, but the fact that Zappa was self taught and could play and write what he did is just amazing.
also, Zappa would augment his style with whatever band he had at the time. For example, from 72-74, he had this jazz-rock style, more rock obviously, but tried to keep up with all the jazz musicians he surrounded himself with. in the late 70s and early 80s his tone was more 'raunchy' and really powerful. in '88, he used a tone I really like from him throughout most of his sets. He also improvised every solo, whereas i dont think Howe improvises all his solos, but he obviously could. |
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Abstrakt
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Posted: August 26 2008 at 15:38 |
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As a guitarrist - Howe.
But Zappa goes far beyond that! |
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hawkcwg
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Posted: August 26 2008 at 15:31 |
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I think both so innovative, Howe was in several contributing prog bands and Zappa was mainly in Zappa. Zappa was more technical and had to have everything right on more or less a perfectionist, Where Howe was more of a jam man. Someone who just flowed and made mistakes that would sound pretty cool. But also there different and incomparable. I think I like Zappa more as a soloist just because he was a perfectionist and a very innovative musician, And i like Howes different bands he was in better and how he managed to play with so many bands.
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Alberto Muņoz
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Posted: August 26 2008 at 15:23 |
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Both are great guitarrist i simply can't compare his styles, that are so different.
but great.
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Hawkwise
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Posted: August 26 2008 at 14:14 |
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Chalk and Cheese
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proggy
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Posted: August 26 2008 at 14:07 |
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Uncle Frank..............
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dwill123
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Posted: August 26 2008 at 12:32 |
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I would call Zappa's composing and writing genius, not his guitar playing (although not bad either). Steve Howe gets my vote here.
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The Quiet One
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Joined: January 16 2008 Location: Argentina Status: Offline Points: 15745 |
Posted: August 26 2008 at 12:28 |
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I'm not so keen about Zappa now, but my brother and father are HUGE fans, they have a lot of his albums, and I heard quite a lot, as I said before I'm not so keen right now with him, but I do have knowledge about Zoot Allures, Zappa in New York, One-Size Fits All, Over-Nite Sensation, Hot Rats and Grand Wazoo, some others which I don't know their name..
While Howe, yes, his playing on Yes is excellent, wouldn't call it 'Genius' as I would with Zappa, but still his playing is/was very innovative and great. My fave Yes album is The Yes Album, no wonder why  As for genius, amazing composer, the vote is directly to Zappa. For preference on style, sound, etc, I would go for Howe, for the moment... |
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febus
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Posted: August 26 2008 at 11:48 |
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Good for you to know who the better guitarist is, because me i don't know
 ...so -please tell me , i am eager to know.I may have a favorite among these 2 gentlemen, but who i am to say which one is the best?
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horsewithteeth11
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Joined: January 09 2008 Location: Kentucky Status: Offline Points: 24598 |
Posted: August 26 2008 at 11:10 |
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As much as I love Howe, Zappa was the greatest composer of all time and is easily one of my top 3 guitarists of all time, probably at the #1 slot. Find me a composer/guitarist who covered as much ground as he did in his lifetime and I'd be shocked. If you want proof of what I'm saying, then watch this:
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=OW53fiwyskA Edited by birdwithteeth11 - August 26 2008 at 11:16 |
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Posted: August 26 2008 at 11:07 |
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howe. His acoustic playing is amazing.
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J-Man
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Posted: August 26 2008 at 08:46 |
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Howe. Zappa's about even with Howe on electric but on acoustic-not even close!! |
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